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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 18:16:42 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v3qa2a$34b9u$10@i2pn2.org> References: <v3j20v$3gm10$2@dont-email.me> <J_CdnTaA96jxpcD7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <87h6eamkgf.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v3kcdj$3stk9$1@dont-email.me> <v3kjs9$3u7ng$1@dont-email.me> <v3l16f$5d3$4@dont-email.me> <v3mj84$bq2d$1@dont-email.me> <v3njiv$gatu$9@dont-email.me> <v3og5t$328ec$9@i2pn2.org> <v3oh4q$pi6u$2@dont-email.me> <v3ohim$jthg$3@dont-email.me> <v3ohql$pi6u$4@dont-email.me> <v3q5pt$q84p$2@dont-email.me> <v3q63u$122u1$1@dont-email.me> <v3q7an$q84q$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 18:16:42 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3288382"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2741 Lines: 37 Am Wed, 05 Jun 2024 19:29:59 +0200 schrieb John Smith: > On 5/06/24 19:09, olcott wrote: >> On 6/5/2024 12:03 PM, John Smith wrote: >>> On 5/06/24 04:16, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/4/2024 9:12 PM, John Smith wrote: >>>>> On 5/06/24 04:05, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/4/2024 8:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > It's not "Can Carol" - it's "Does Carol" > > Let's ask Carol. She says "no". She's wrong. If I ask John, and John > says "yes", he is right. Carol is deterministic, so she always says "no" > and never says "yes". There's no reason to talk about "if Carol says > yes" because she doesn't say yes. > > Now let's ask David: "Does David answer "no" to this question?" David > says "yes". He's wrong. If I ask Alice, and Alice says "no", she is > right. > > Now let's ask Carol: "Does David answer "no" to this question?". Carol > says "no". She's right. > > Anyway, what was the point of all this? Oh, right. Carol said she can > answer ALL QUESTIONS correctly. I just proved that she's a massive liar, > because she can't answer my question correctly. > > I can ask Carol "what is the square root of a wombat?" and she can't > answer, but it's not a real question so it doesn't count. But "Does > Carol answer "no" to this question?" is a real question. Very good. > Did you notice that you started talking to me as soon as I changed my > name? Lol, but not even the email! -- joes