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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Mike Terry Error Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 18:28:00 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v3qanf$34b9u$13@i2pn2.org> References: <v3j20v$3gm10$2@dont-email.me> <J_CdnTaA96jxpcD7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <87h6eamkgf.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v3kcdj$3stk9$1@dont-email.me> <v3l7uo$13cp$8@dont-email.me> <v3lcat$228t$3@dont-email.me> <v3mq9j$chc3$1@dont-email.me> <v3mrli$chc4$1@dont-email.me> <_gWdnbwuZPJP2sL7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v3nkqr$h7f9$3@dont-email.me> <v3o0ph$31rmn$1@i2pn2.org> <v3o3og$jm9q$2@dont-email.me> <v3p761$sg73$4@dont-email.me> <v3pr90$1003g$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 18:28:00 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3288382"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2866 Lines: 38 Am Wed, 05 Jun 2024 09:04:16 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/5/2024 3:21 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 05.jun.2024 om 00:16 schreef olcott: >>> On 6/4/2024 4:26 PM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Tue, 04 Jun 2024 13:02:03 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 6/4/2024 11:58 AM, Mike Terry wrote: >>>>>> On 04/06/2024 11:52, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>> Op 04.jun.2024 om 12:29 schreef Fred. Zwarts: >>>>>>>> Op 03.jun.2024 om 23:24 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>> On 6/3/2024 3:09 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Op 03.jun.2024 om 14:20 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/3/2024 4:42 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> writes: >> Yes. And the fact that your decider diagnoses itself as non-halting >> proves that there is something wrong with your decider. >> Get the cream out of your eyes! >> >> typedef int (*ptr)(); // ptr is pointer to int function >> in C >> int H(ptr p, ptr i); >> int main() >> { >> H(main, 0); >> } >> >> H diagnoses this program as non-halting. The only reason is obvious: >> the simulation of H by itself did not reach the final state. > > *The simulation of H is not required to halt* But you wanted a decider! > I actually tried this example and it does prove that main() halts and it > also proves that the directly executed H(main, 0) > halts and correctly returns 0; I gave you all of the details in another > reply. -- joes