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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:31:25 -0500
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On 6/5/2024 8:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/5/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/5/2024 8:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/5/24 9:01 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/2024 6:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/24 8:30 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 6:31 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/4/24 11:21 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2024 10:15 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/24 10:55 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2024 9:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/24 10:28 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2024 9:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/24 9:54 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2024 8:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/24 5:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/DD_correctly_simulated_by_HH_is_Proven.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact that the above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link conclusively proves that DD <is> correctly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulated by HH.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has been just like I smash a Boston cream pie in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their face and they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persistently deny that there ever was any pie as this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pie drips from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their face.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem iks you use the WRONG DEFINITION of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Simulated Correctly" to allow the simulation to say 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything about the behavior of the machine being simulated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I conclusively proved otherwise in the above link*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You CAN'T provd that a definition is wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you cannot*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you cannot*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you cannot*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What are you asking for a counter example of?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The machine description of DD specifies that it does not halt to
>>>>>>>>>> simulating halt decider HH and you already know that you cannot
>>>>>>>>>> possibly prove otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it specifies that it HALTS, since HH(DD,DD) will return 0.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other words you have always known that I am correct
>>>>>>>> that DD correctly simulated by HH CANNOT POSSIBLY HALT
>>>>>>>> and yet still try to get away with pure bluster.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are talking in circles and keep on changing topics, possible 
>>>>>>> because you just don't know what you are talking about, or 
>>>>>>> possible, your medication has made your brain too fuzzy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *It is a proven fact that directly executed DD(DD) has*
>>>>>> *different behavior than DD correctly simulated by HH*
>>>>>> *One can lie about this yet this lie is easily exposed*
>>>>>
>>>>> Then HH does not correctly simulate the input per the definition of 
>>>>> computation theory (or the general concept of a correct simulation)
>>>>>
>>>>> PERIOD.
>>>>
>>>> *This unequivocally proves the behavior of DD correctly simulated by 
>>>> HH*
>>>> https://liarparadox.org/DD_correctly_simulated_by_HH_is_Proven.pdf
>>>>
>>>> *That you cannot find any error seems to prove that you are a liar*
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nopoe, because it is based on the LIE that a partial simulation of a 
>>> machine indicates what it will do after the simulation stopped, and 
>>> that the simulation of a DIFFERENT machine tells you of the behavior 
>>> of a different machine then simulated.
>>
>> *I will dumb it down for you some more*
>> Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated by any HH
>> such that this DD reaches past its machine address [00001dbe]
> 
> 
> I never said it could, you just are stuck in a bad question.
> 

THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT
UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE
THAT I AM INCORRECT

*I will dumb it down for you some more*
Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated by any HH
such that this DD reaches past its machine address [00001dbe]

_DD()
[00001db2] 55         push ebp
[00001db3] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[00001db5] 51         push ecx
[00001db6] 8b4508     mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00001db9] 50         push eax        ; push DD
[00001dba] 8b4d08     mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00001dbd] 51         push ecx        ; push DD
[00001dbe] e8bff5ffff call 00001382   ; call HH

*Mike Terry would admit it if he would pay attention*
*He is not a liar*

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