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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Cycling editorial Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 07:37:31 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <v3s71r$1frji$1@dont-email.me> References: <uv9md2$1tsb5$1@dont-email.me> <uvc3gj$2hkh3$1@dont-email.me> <uvpvju$21444$5@dont-email.me> <1h612jhg8dn78cu521rk4jqq7dv141jrub@4ax.com> <uvre13$2aocg$1@dont-email.me> <fti22j1i4df5qd24e1o9hvm6eu0vu251h1@4ax.com> <KdxUN.1801$cEa4.1038@fx07.iad> <uvuu75$38gd9$2@dont-email.me> <uvv937$3e6j5$1@dont-email.me> <KHeVN.24443$Dfwf.1642@fx12.iad> <nm0b2j9i21u3suviv1ntapk2l2ah667c0b@4ax.com> <v06ahk$11r52$3@dont-email.me> <ik68O.47902$Dsz1.42317@fx14.iad> <53426jljqqaj2j2qp42rueeamdtee67bgo@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 13:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="77c477ac9ac11ba4566c2494d56f25b4"; logging-data="1568370"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1KPaZTL2ehIEcC5vsbdFQ2RDlNiLujFo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mpwb54SYr3Nw69yjkOpcTH9ISI4= In-Reply-To: <53426jljqqaj2j2qp42rueeamdtee67bgo@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3251 On 6/5/2024 9:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 23:15:26 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> Your opinion of HP might very well be true. But because the market tracks inflation, today HP is worth 3 times what it was in 2019. This means that they have been holding their value. I hope you put some of your money in their stock. > > In 2019, HP stock was worth about $20. Today, it's worth about $35. > That's a net increase of 35 / 20 = 1.75 times in the past 5 years. > If HP was really "worth 3 times what it was in 2019", then it should > now be selling for $60/share. > > What I _should_ have done was leave my Agilent shares alone. As I mentioned previously, HP is a shell of its former self. When the Agilent split happened, all my HP were converted to Agilent 1:1, IIRC the shares were in the $25 range at the time. We weren't given a choice for the options, but were asked of we wanted to keep owned-shares of HP or convert them. Given my distaste for what the Fiorina regime did to HP, I chose to convert. Finally, ~15 years after I had been laid off, I was in a review with my financial planner and we noted the lackluster performance of Agilent, so I sold it all and invested in a mutual fund. Converting everything to agilent was a good move, selling it all later....Bad move. From 2019 on, Agilent has been performing brilliantly, going from ~ $25/share when I sold to the mid 100's ($133 as of this message). HP is still only in the $30 range. Given over 20 years of inflation I would have lost money if I left any in HP. Still, the mutual fund is doing well and I've made reasonable gains - well more than if I left it in HP, but not as well as if I had left it in Agilent.