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From: ornott <news2@immibis.com>
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Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 18:48:08 +0200
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On 5/06/24 04:55, olcott wrote:
> On 6/4/2024 9:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 6/4/24 10:28 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2024 9:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 6/4/24 9:54 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/4/2024 8:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/4/24 5:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/DD_correctly_simulated_by_HH_is_Proven.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact that 
>>>>>>> the above
>>>>>>> link conclusively proves that DD <is> correctly simulated by HH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has been just like I smash a Boston cream pie in their face 
>>>>>>> and they
>>>>>>> persistently deny that there ever was any pie as this pie drips from
>>>>>>> their face.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem iks you use the WRONG DEFINITION of "Simulated 
>>>>>> Correctly" to allow the simulation to say anything about the 
>>>>>> behavior of the machine being simulated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *I conclusively proved otherwise in the above link*
>>>>
>>>> You CAN'T provd that a definition is wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that you cannot*
>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that you cannot*
>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that you cannot*
>>
>> What are you asking for a counter example of?
>>
> 
> The machine description of DD specifies that it does not halt to
> simulating halt decider HH and you already know that you cannot
> possibly prove otherwise.

The machine description of DD specifies (to everyone) that it halts if 
HH(DD,DD) returns 0.