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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 22:08:11 -0400
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On 6/6/24 10:56 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/6/2024 9:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-06-06 14:27:41 +0000, olcott said:
>>
>>> The common meaning of the term [lie] is
>>>
>>> noun
>>> (1) a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive;
>>> an intentional untruth.
>>>
>>> verb (used without object)
>>> (1) to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with
>>> intent to deceive. Synonyms: fib, prevaricate
>>>
>>> When Richard calls people liars and does not mean they have any
>>> intent to deceive this makes Richard a liar because Richard knows
>>> that people will be lead to believe that he is using the common
>>> definition that requires an intent to deceive.
>>>
>>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/lie
>>
>> In some places the subject line may be regareded aa a crime unless
>> its author can present an acceptable proof of it.
>>
>> It is often regarded as a bad manner to put names of people
>> to the subject line.
>>
>> According to Wiktionary https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lie#Etymology_2
>> a possible meaning is 'To be mistaken or unintentionally spread false
>> information'.
>>
> 
> Richard intends for people to get the false impression thus Richard
> lies with intent to deceive.

Nope, I want peole to know the TRUTH.

> 
> Richard already knows that an intent to deceive is the common definition
> of lie, and deliberately calls me a liar full well knowing that I have
> no intent to deceive. Two other people in this forum, already called him
> out on calling me a liar.

Not always.

> 
> Richard calls me a liar with full intent to short-circuit an honest
> dialogue because he makes sure to utterly fail to provide any evidence
> that I am even incorrect on this key point that we have been debated for
> three years:

Nope, I do it to try to snap you out of your gaslighting.

> 
> Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated by any HH
> such that this DD reaches past its machine address [00001dbe]

As I have said, I don't care about that, and neither should you since it 
is just a strawman in a descussion about programs Halting and deciding 
if they do.

> 
> _DD()
> [00001e12] 55         push ebp
> [00001e13] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp
> [00001e15] 51         push ecx
> [00001e16] 8b4508     mov  eax,[ebp+08]
> [00001e19] 50         push eax      ; push DD
> [00001e1a] 8b4d08     mov  ecx,[ebp+08]
> [00001e1d] 51         push ecx      ; push DD
> [00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH
> 
> *Mike Terry would admit it if he would pay attention*
> *He is not a liar*
> 
> *This unequivocally proves the behavior of DD correctly simulated by HH*
> https://liarparadox.org/DD_correctly_simulated_by_HH_is_Proven.pdf
> 
> *My purpose in saying this is two-fold*
> (1) Turn the conversation anchored in false rhetoric into
> an honest dialogue anchored in verified facts.
> 
> (2) Protect Richard from the consequences of this:
> 
> Revelations 21:8 (KJV)
> ...all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth
> with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
>