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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: When Olcott calls people liars he lies Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 22:08:17 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v3tq2h$388rj$5@i2pn2.org> References: <v3sh0t$1gra7$12@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 02:08:17 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3416947"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v3sh0t$1gra7$12@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2680 Lines: 53 On 6/6/24 10:27 AM, olcott wrote: > The common meaning of the term [lie] is > > noun > (1) a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; > an intentional untruth. > > verb (used without object) > (1) to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with > intent to deceive. Synonyms: fib, prevaricate > > When Richard calls people liars and does not mean they have any > intent to deceive this makes Richard a liar because Richard knows > that people will be lead to believe that he is using the common > definition that requires an intent to deceive. > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/lie > > > Except that isn't the only definition, so you are JUST LYING Again. I am using: lie noun(2) 1 b: an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker or writer From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lie#dictionary-entry-3 Remember in general English, the speaker gets to use the words in the way they want to. This has been explained to you, so your calling be a liar for calling you a liar is a lie by even YOUR definition, since you have known that your definition isn't the one I am using. Note, even legally, your definition doesn't hold, as a statement done with reckless disreguard for the truth, so even if they don't "beleive" they are wrong, but a normal competent person would see the error, makes it legally a lie Note also, even your own source defends me, as it says: 3: an inaccurate or untrue statement; falsehood: And that describes your statements, your ignorant denial of the truth doesn't sheild your statements from being lies. So, you are AGAIN just proven to be a liar that is trying to deceive people with slanted definitions.