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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 08:32:35 +0300
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On 2024-06-06 14:56:28 +0000, olcott said:

> On 6/6/2024 9:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-06-06 14:27:41 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>> The common meaning of the term [lie] is
>>> 
>>> noun
>>> (1) a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive;
>>> an intentional untruth.
>>> 
>>> verb (used without object)
>>> (1) to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with
>>> intent to deceive. Synonyms: fib, prevaricate
>>> 
>>> When Richard calls people liars and does not mean they have any
>>> intent to deceive this makes Richard a liar because Richard knows
>>> that people will be lead to believe that he is using the common
>>> definition that requires an intent to deceive.
>>> 
>>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/lie
>> 
>> In some places the subject line may be regareded aa a crime unless
>> its author can present an acceptable proof of it.
>> 
>> It is often regarded as a bad manner to put names of people
>> to the subject line.
>> 
>> According to Wiktionary https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lie#Etymology_2
>> a possible meaning is 'To be mistaken or unintentionally spread false
>> information'.
>> 
> 
> Richard intends for people to get the false impression thus Richard
> lies with intent to deceive.

In some (but not all) paĺacess saying that is a crime unless you can
prove your words in a way that is accepted by a judge (or whatever
the local laws happen to require).

Anyway, moral and legal issues are of topic in comp.theory.

-- 
Mikko