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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:04:33 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v3u7th$1v0li$1@dont-email.me> References: <v3svh3$1k5vr$1@dont-email.me> <v3t0bs$1infa$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 08:04:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6ffc97c8aed538b65f79c8ced6ee8603"; logging-data="2065074"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19PPMYHZx7zfYXowU4ln8CY" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:sYvS/QV0hvhgdok4t49RqlZ0DtI= Bytes: 2437 On 2024-06-06 18:49:32 +0000, Rafael Doofenschmirtz said: > On 6/06/24 20:35, olcott wrote: >> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> >> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D >> until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never >> stop running unless aborted then >> >> H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D >> specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. >> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words10/13/2022> >> >> *Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever* >> *stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH* >> >> _DD() >> [00001e12] 55 push ebp >> [00001e13] 8bec mov ebp,esp >> [00001e15] 51 push ecx >> [00001e16] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] >> [00001e19] 50 push eax ; push DD >> [00001e1a] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] >> [00001e1d] 51 push ecx ; push DD >> [00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH >> > > after HH returns 0, the program counter proceeds to address 00001e23, > and then, a few instructions later DD also returns If HH ever returns. The challenge does not specify anything about HH other than it simulates the same DD. In particular, the last shown line may cause HH to simulate itself, depending on how HH interpretes it. -- Mikko