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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Running an editor from ANSI C Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 11:31:01 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <v3uk0l$20s0s$2@dont-email.me> References: <v3pge7$uf2i$1@dont-email.me> <v3r2pl$16mtl$1@dont-email.me> <v3r7v8$1b57j$1@dont-email.me> <v3rek5$1c4i5$1@dont-email.me> <v3rrtm$1e6g8$1@dont-email.me> <v3ru84$1eafb$1@dont-email.me> <87o78dzw1a.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <v3tkmb$1o860$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 11:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ec5c1f9082215424827ae25d429fe7a7"; logging-data="2125852"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19t9vDaKjjTvO027CK+b/bZjsy6IJA3oT4=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:dsPyDttQaHQJyLF4HY/bhBqK50I= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <v3tkmb$1o860$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2099 On 07/06/2024 02:36, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jun 2024 12:54:57 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> (mkstemp() is more flexible, but is not defined by ISO C.) > > I’ve said this before: C is essentially crippled without a POSIX layer > underneath. And you were also wrong the last time you said that. Pure standard C89/C90 and its standard library is not sufficient for a good implementation of the kind of thing Malcolm is trying to make here. But that's not surprising - it was never designed or intended to be sufficient for such projects. But many people have lots of use of programming in C without any kind of POSIX functionality - your claim is clearly wild and unhelpful exaggeration at best.