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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 16:55:20 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 17 Message-ID: <v3v70o$21qlc$3@dont-email.me> References: <v3j20v$3gm10$2@dont-email.me> <J_CdnTaA96jxpcD7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <87h6eamkgf.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v3kcdj$3stk9$1@dont-email.me> <v3l7uo$13cp$8@dont-email.me> <v3lcat$228t$3@dont-email.me> <v3mq9j$chc3$1@dont-email.me> <v3mrli$chc4$1@dont-email.me> <_gWdnbwuZPJP2sL7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v3nkqr$h7f9$3@dont-email.me> <v3p4ka$sk6h$1@dont-email.me> <v3pp7p$v133$8@dont-email.me> <v3s27e$1f9kd$1@dont-email.me> <v3sf1n$1gra7$11@dont-email.me> <v3sjo9$1ialb$1@dont-email.me> <v3skoo$1iedv$1@dont-email.me> <v3u9ej$1v7rn$1@dont-email.me> <v3v6i7$23l33$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 16:55:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a1f1891753654cb88b89123a5808f378"; logging-data="2157228"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18HP7IuG5fIHfzTkVkUHJKQ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:QuKDNx3EoFPj+i8M32rAO+B9s8s= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v3v6i7$23l33$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2124 Le 07/06/2024 à 16:47, olcott a écrit : > ... Turing machines can only take finite string > inputs thus cannot take Turing machines as inputs. WTF??? Since then a Turing machine cannot be represented as a finite string? > The issue here is that I proved that DD correctly simulated > by HH has different behavior than the directly executed > DD(DD) and everyone's "rebuttal" to this proof is to simply > ignore it. "correctly simulated" has "different than directly executed" This is dementia at the higher degree.