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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 10:29:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 159 Message-ID: <v3v909$242e9$5@dont-email.me> References: <v3o2dj$jm9q$1@dont-email.me> <v3og6b$328ec$10@i2pn2.org> <v3ogh9$pi6u$1@dont-email.me> <v3oi5t$328ec$13@i2pn2.org> <v3oifv$psat$1@dont-email.me> <v3ojg2$328eb$1@i2pn2.org> <v3ok3p$q2fh$1@dont-email.me> <v3ol8s$328ec$14@i2pn2.org> <v3olkf$q9du$1@dont-email.me> <v3piaa$33gmb$1@i2pn2.org> <v3plp1$v133$2@dont-email.me> <v3qsi6$354ia$1@i2pn2.org> <v3r1pl$16gjs$1@dont-email.me> <v3r24v$354i9$4@i2pn2.org> <v3r2pb$16lke$1@dont-email.me> <v3r39a$354ia$5@i2pn2.org> <v3r3hd$1ahl1$1@dont-email.me> <v3r6mt$354i9$6@i2pn2.org> <v3r7p2$1b63v$1@dont-email.me> <v3r914$354i9$7@i2pn2.org> <v3r9ds$1b96e$1@dont-email.me> <v3rb52$354ia$7@i2pn2.org> <v3rbaj$1bg3t$1@dont-email.me> <v3rc4m$354i9$8@i2pn2.org> <v3rcgn$1bpcn$1@dont-email.me> <v3rcks$354i9$9@i2pn2.org> <v3rd3r$1bsem$1@dont-email.me> <v3s5g6$36git$2@i2pn2.org> <v3sc8c$1gra7$2@dont-email.me> <v3tq33$388rj$13@i2pn2.org> <v3tstr$1td1o$2@dont-email.me> <v3tuqh$388ri$1@i2pn2.org> <v3v0qj$22vrk$1@dont-email.me> <v3v85d$39ri5$11@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:29:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ad5aa88e540ea762834522b410d9de6a"; logging-data="2230729"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zKl5AlCoGGjI/pjzhp/TH" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:v6Y5opL18L5ocjCgu+pevChJtpo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v3v85d$39ri5$11@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 9057 On 6/7/2024 10:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/7/24 9:09 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/6/2024 10:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/6/24 10:56 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/6/2024 9:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/6/24 9:06 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/6/2024 6:11 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/6/24 12:14 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 11:06 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 6/6/24 12:04 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 10:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 11:44 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 10:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 11:11 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 10:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 10:43 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 9:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 9:31 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 8:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 8:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nopoe, because it is based on the LIE that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partial simulation of a machine indicates what it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will do after the simulation stopped, and that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation of a DIFFERENT machine tells you of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior of a different machine then simulated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I will dumb it down for you some more* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by any HH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that this DD reaches past its machine address >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001dbe] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said it could, you just are stuck in a bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you aren't going to get anywhere, because I just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care about that worthless claim. Only when you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cross the line from talking about the SUBJECTIVE answer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that HH saw, to the OBJECTIVE behavior of the machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the input represents to a Halt Decider, will you get me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caring, and slapping you down hard with a factual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebuttal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I will dumb it down for you some more* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any HH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that this DD reaches past its machine address >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001dbe] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I don't claim that it can. I won't go to the effort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to confirm that it can't, because, frankly, I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give a damn because it is MEANINGLESS. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worthless claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your >>>>>>>>>>>>> worthless claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your >>>>>>>>>>> worthless claim. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your worthless >>>>>>>>> claim. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, because >>>>>>> I am not willing to put that effort into your worthless claim. >>>>>> >>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>> >>>>>> THUS THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT UNTIL >>>>>> YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>> >>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, because I >>>>> am not willing to put that effort into your worthless claim. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Then I am no longer willing to talk to you. >>>> It is not a worthless claim it is the validation of the >>>> essence of my life's work. >>>> >>> >>> If the essence of your life's work is that you came up with a way to >>> not-prove the thing you were trying to prove >> >> No you are just a Liar > > Then try to show it. > I conclusively prove my point and you finally admit that your whole CHANGE-THE-SUBJECT strawman deception fake rebuttal has always simply ignored the proof that I am correct shown below: Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH. _DD() [00001e12] 55 push ebp [00001e13] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00001e15] 51 push ecx [00001e16] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] [00001e19] 50 push eax ; push DD [00001e1a] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] [00001e1d] 51 push ecx ; push DD [00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH A {correct simulation} means that each instruction of the above x86 machine language of DD is correctly simulated by HH and simulated in the correct order. Anyone claiming that HH should report on the behavior of the directly executed DD(DD) is requiring a violation of the above definition of correct simulation. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer