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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 11:13:27 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 195 Message-ID: <v3vbj7$24orn$1@dont-email.me> References: <v3o2dj$jm9q$1@dont-email.me> <v3oifv$psat$1@dont-email.me> <v3ojg2$328eb$1@i2pn2.org> <v3ok3p$q2fh$1@dont-email.me> <v3ol8s$328ec$14@i2pn2.org> <v3olkf$q9du$1@dont-email.me> <v3piaa$33gmb$1@i2pn2.org> <v3plp1$v133$2@dont-email.me> <v3qsi6$354ia$1@i2pn2.org> <v3r1pl$16gjs$1@dont-email.me> <v3r24v$354i9$4@i2pn2.org> <v3r2pb$16lke$1@dont-email.me> <v3r39a$354ia$5@i2pn2.org> <v3r3hd$1ahl1$1@dont-email.me> <v3r6mt$354i9$6@i2pn2.org> <v3r7p2$1b63v$1@dont-email.me> <v3r914$354i9$7@i2pn2.org> <v3r9ds$1b96e$1@dont-email.me> <v3rb52$354ia$7@i2pn2.org> <v3rbaj$1bg3t$1@dont-email.me> <v3rc4m$354i9$8@i2pn2.org> <v3rcgn$1bpcn$1@dont-email.me> <v3rcks$354i9$9@i2pn2.org> <v3rd3r$1bsem$1@dont-email.me> <v3s5g6$36git$2@i2pn2.org> <v3sc8c$1gra7$2@dont-email.me> <v3tq33$388rj$13@i2pn2.org> <v3tstr$1td1o$2@dont-email.me> <v3tuqh$388ri$1@i2pn2.org> <v3v0qj$22vrk$1@dont-email.me> <v3v85d$39ri5$11@i2pn2.org> <v3v909$242e9$5@dont-email.me> <v3vaku$24e72$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 18:13:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="38a6c8611b5b06dec5d677dcd047c039"; logging-data="2253687"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18fBLS9uh/LQ3gsTWKOJBsd" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:b96BiZ6IMT/dvcD6yVIe6PE2Cr8= In-Reply-To: <v3vaku$24e72$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 10754 On 6/7/2024 10:57 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 07.jun.2024 om 17:29 schreef olcott: >> On 6/7/2024 10:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/7/24 9:09 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/6/2024 10:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/6/24 10:56 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/6/2024 9:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/6/24 9:06 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/6/2024 6:11 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 6/6/24 12:14 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 11:06 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/24 12:04 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 10:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 11:44 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 10:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 11:11 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 10:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 10:43 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 9:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 9:31 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 8:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 8:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nopoe, because it is based on the LIE that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partial simulation of a machine indicates what it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will do after the simulation stopped, and that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the simulation of a DIFFERENT machine tells you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the behavior of a different machine then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I will dumb it down for you some more* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try any show how this DD can be correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulated by any HH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that this DD reaches past its machine address >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001dbe] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said it could, you just are stuck in a bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you aren't going to get anywhere, because I just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care about that worthless claim. Only when you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cross the line from talking about the SUBJECTIVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer that HH saw, to the OBJECTIVE behavior of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine the input represents to a Halt Decider, will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you get me caring, and slapping you down hard with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factual rebuttal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I will dumb it down for you some more* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by any HH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that this DD reaches past its machine address >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [00001dbe] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I don't claim that it can. I won't go to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort to confirm that it can't, because, frankly, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't give a damn because it is MEANINGLESS. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, because I am not willing to put that effort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into your worthless claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worthless claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your >>>>>>>>>>>>> worthless claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your >>>>>>>>>>> worthless claim. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT >>>>>>>>>> UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE >>>>>>>>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, >>>>>>>>> because I am not willing to put that effort into your worthless >>>>>>>>> claim. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>>>> *THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF MY PROOF* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> THUS THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK TO ME ABOUT UNTIL >>>>>>>> YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE THAT I AM INCORRECT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you are correct, because >>>>>>> I am not willing to put that effort into your worthless claim. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Then I am no longer willing to talk to you. >>>>>> It is not a worthless claim it is the validation of the >>>>>> essence of my life's work. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If the essence of your life's work is that you came up with a way >>>>> to not-prove the thing you were trying to prove >>>> >>>> No you are just a Liar >>> >>> Then try to show it. >>> >> I conclusively prove my point and you finally admit that your whole >> CHANGE-THE-SUBJECT strawman deception fake rebuttal has always simply >> ignored the proof that I am correct shown below: >> >> Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever >> stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH. >> >> _DD() >> [00001e12] 55 push ebp >> [00001e13] 8bec mov ebp,esp >> [00001e15] 51 push ecx >> [00001e16] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] >> [00001e19] 50 push eax ; push DD >> [00001e1a] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] >> [00001e1d] 51 push ecx ; push DD >> [00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH >> >> A {correct simulation} means that each instruction of the >> above x86 machine language of DD is correctly simulated >> by HH and simulated in the correct order. > > Does that imply that you think that the direct execution does not > execute the instructions of the x86 machine language of DD correctly and > in correct order? > If both the simulation and the direct execution process the instructions > of the x86 machine language of DD correctly and in correct order, then > why should they differ? > ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========