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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Proof that DD correctly simulated by HH provides the correct halt status criteria Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 17:20:28 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <v4013c$287qb$5@dont-email.me> References: <v3vv8a$287qb$1@dont-email.me> <v3vvrc$27qug$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 00:20:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="99ea1b6838dd1404bad406fc122dbf0f"; logging-data="2367307"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18fef3PbyvTe9qRqoyQVItl" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:sm7D2tbsu7D+E9Y2fEJXAUF5b5A= In-Reply-To: <v3vvrc$27qug$3@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2830 On 6/7/2024 4:59 PM, Python wrote: > Le 07/06/2024 à 23:48, olcott a écrit : >> *That no counter-example to the following exists proves that it is true* >> *That no counter-example to the following exists proves that it is true* >> *That no counter-example to the following exists proves that it is true* >> >> Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever >> stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH. >> >> _DD() >> [00001e12] 55 push ebp >> [00001e13] 8bec mov ebp,esp >> [00001e15] 51 push ecx >> [00001e16] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] >> [00001e19] 50 push eax ; push DD >> [00001e1a] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] >> [00001e1d] 51 push ecx ; push DD >> [00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH >> >> A {correct simulation} means that each instruction of the >> above x86 machine language of DD is correctly simulated >> by HH and simulated in the correct order. > > "correctly" is used in the definition of "correct": this > is not a definition. > You have somewhat of a point there, yet the words that I have said are more easily understood as they are and would be confusing to some of my readers if I made them much more precise. *More precise and more cumbersome* Each machine language instruction of DD is emulated by a third party x86 emulator to perform the semantics specified by this x86 machine language instruction including any and all control flow operations that leave the first instruction of the machine language of DD. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer