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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --
 closure
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 18:07:08 -0500
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On 6/7/2024 6:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/7/24 6:35 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/7/2024 5:22 PM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:11:00 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> That it is literally impossible to prove that the following is false
>>>> conclusively proves that it is true and the proof really need not be
>>>> wrapped in any tuxedo.
>>> If you consider it unfalsifiable, why do you care?
>>>
>>
>> The entire body of truth is unfalsifiable.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability
>>
>> That "cats" <are> "animals" is unfalsifiable because
>> it is inherently true.
>>
>> You are conflating empirical with analytical truth.
>> Scientific principles do not exactly apply to math.
>>
>>>> We can get on to other key points only after we have closure on this
>>>> {foundation of simulating halt deciders} point.
>>> What do you need closure for? You only want agreement.
>>>
>>
>> I must get closure on each of the four points of
>> my proof so that I know that my words can possibly
>> be understood. Without this publication is hopeless.
>>
> 
> Except that you don't have a "Proof" because it isn't in the form of a 
> formal proof.
> 
> All you have is an arguement.

A proof need not be dressed in any tuxedo. As long as correct
rebuttal has been shown to be categorically impossible then
the point has been fully proven.

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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer