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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:50:36 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 98 Message-ID: <v409st$29u1i$2@dont-email.me> References: <v3o2dj$jm9q$1@dont-email.me> <v3s5g6$36git$2@i2pn2.org> <v3sc8c$1gra7$2@dont-email.me> <v3tq33$388rj$13@i2pn2.org> <v3tstr$1td1o$2@dont-email.me> <v3tuqh$388ri$1@i2pn2.org> <v3v0qj$22vrk$1@dont-email.me> <v3v85d$39ri5$11@i2pn2.org> <v3vacl$242e9$8@dont-email.me> <v3vh9l$a5e$2@news.muc.de> <v3vhvq$25ojk$2@dont-email.me> <v3vj8p$39ri6$7@i2pn2.org> <v3vk9b$266aq$2@dont-email.me> <8c92495d4433776d8ddc4706fb1de05b245f5829.camel@gmail.com> <v3vn5u$26d04$1@dont-email.me> <v3vont$a5e$3@news.muc.de> <v3vp3j$27d15$2@dont-email.me> <v3vpsg$39ri6$12@i2pn2.org> <v400hl$287qb$3@dont-email.me> <v4016m$3avmq$1@i2pn2.org> <v401vc$28q9r$2@dont-email.me> <v404mk$3b1i8$2@i2pn2.org> <v406e4$2965i$7@dont-email.me> <v406pr$39ri5$24@i2pn2.org> <v408aa$29nm5$1@dont-email.me> <v409jf$39ri6$21@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 02:50:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="99ea1b6838dd1404bad406fc122dbf0f"; logging-data="2422834"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/56mzAW3RlfjV7JCd4RaaK" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bCsLqAq7hS3TELzJs5RCgOqdxpI= In-Reply-To: <v409jf$39ri6$21@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5321 On 6/7/2024 7:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/7/24 8:23 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/7/2024 6:57 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/7/24 7:51 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/7/2024 6:21 PM, joes wrote: >>>>> Am Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:35:24 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/7/2024 5:22 PM, joes wrote: >>>>>>> Am Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:11:00 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>> That it is literally impossible to prove that the following is >>>>>>>> false >>>>>>>> conclusively proves that it is true and the proof really need >>>>>>>> not be >>>>>>>> wrapped in any tuxedo. >>>>> Why do you care about rebuttals if you don't even consider them >>>>> possible? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Until other people understand that I am correct my words are >>>> too difficult to be understood making publication impossible. >>>> >>>>>>>> We can get on to other key points only after we have closure on >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> {foundation of simulating halt deciders} point. >>>>>>> What do you need closure for? You only want agreement. >>>>>> I must get closure on each of the four points of my proof so that >>>>>> I know >>>>>> that my words can possibly be understood. Without this publication is >>>>>> hopeless. >>>>> Publication IS hopeless. As far as your words can be understood, >>>>> they are >>>>> wrong. You could just post all of them. >>>>> >>>> >>>> My words only seem wrong on the basis of a false religious >>>> belief of the nature of correct simulation. >>>> >>> >>> Nope, most of your words are just wrong. >> >> That by itself shows a reckless disregard for the truth when >> taken within the context that you refuse to even look at the >> proof that my most important words are correct. >> >> On 6/5/2024 8:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> > On 6/5/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote: >> >> >> >> *I will dumb it down for you some more* >> >> Try any show how this DD can be correctly simulated by any HH >> >> such that this DD reaches past its machine address [00001dbe] >> > >> > >> > I never said it could, you just are stuck in a bad question. >> > >> >> Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever >> stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH. >> > > Why? > Because saying that I am wrong and refusing to look at the proof that I am correct <is> defamation. Because saying that I am wrong and refusing to look at the proof that I am correct <is> defamation. Because saying that I am wrong and refusing to look at the proof that I am correct <is> defamation. Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH. _DD() [00001e12] 55 push ebp [00001e13] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00001e15] 51 push ecx [00001e16] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] [00001e19] 50 push eax ; push DD [00001e1a] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] [00001e1d] 51 push ecx ; push DD [00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH A {correct simulation} means that each instruction of the above x86 machine language of DD is correctly simulated by HH and simulated in the correct order. Anyone claiming that HH should report on the behavior of the directly executed DD(DD) is requiring a violation of the above definition of correct simulation. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer