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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --
 closure
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 20:26:10 -0500
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On 6/7/2024 8:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/7/24 8:52 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/7/2024 7:47 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/7/24 8:32 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/2024 6:57 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/24 7:51 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/7/2024 6:21 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:35:24 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2024 5:22 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:11:00 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> That it is literally impossible to prove that the following is 
>>>>>>>>>> false
>>>>>>>>>> conclusively proves that it is true and the proof really need 
>>>>>>>>>> not be
>>>>>>>>>> wrapped in any tuxedo.
>>>>>>> Why do you care about rebuttals if you don't even consider them 
>>>>>>> possible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until other people understand that I am correct my words are
>>>>>> too difficult to be understood making publication impossible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We can get on to other key points only after we have closure 
>>>>>>>>>> on this
>>>>>>>>>> {foundation of simulating halt deciders} point.
>>>>>>>>> What do you need closure for? You only want agreement.
>>>>>>>> I must get closure on each of the four points of my proof so 
>>>>>>>> that I know
>>>>>>>> that my words can possibly be understood. Without this 
>>>>>>>> publication is
>>>>>>>> hopeless.
>>>>>>> Publication IS hopeless. As far as your words can be understood, 
>>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>> wrong. You could just post all of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My words only seem wrong on the basis of a false religious
>>>>>> belief of the nature of correct simulation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, most of your words are just wrong. (at least when you try to 
>>>>> talk about the actual theorems you are talking about).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That by itself shows a reckless disregard for the truth when
>>>> taken within the context that you refuse to even look at the
>>>> proof that my most important words are correct.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/5/2024 10:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>  > On 6/5/24 11:44 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >> THIS IS ALL THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO TALK
>>>>  >> TO ME ABOUT UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
>>>>  >> I AM CORRECT OR YOU PROVE THAT I AM INCORRECT
>>>>  >
>>>>  > But, as I said, I won't acknowledge that you
>>>>  > are correct, because I am not willing to put
>>>>  > that effort into your worthless claim.
>>>>  >
>>>>
>>>> The proof that you refuse to look at proves that my notion of
>>>> a simulating halt decider does apply to the halting problem
>>>> proofs. There is one more step to make this proof complete.
>>>>
>>>
>>> WHAT PROOF?
>>>
>>> You haven't given a proof, just a lame arguement.
>>>
>>>
>>>> That you say my "words are just wrong" making sure to not
>>>> look at the proof that they are correct <is> actionable.
>>>> What would your pastor think about you telling these lies?
>>>>
>>>> Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever
>>>> stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH.
>>>
>>> and who cares?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OK then I will try and contact your pastor.
>>
> 
> To tell him what?
> 
> That I told a unrepentant sinner that he was going to go to hell?

Salvation
We believe that a person is saved by the grace of God through faith in
Jesus,(Romans 3:23-25). We believe that when a person repents and is
baptized, their sins are forgiven, they receive the Holy Spirit and they
are added to Jesus’ church. (Acts 2:38)

Can salvation be lost?
Some say yes and some say no.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer