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From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
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Subject: Re: Languages
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 21:55:01 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 14:51:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<37icnX3evff1T_n7nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 17:32:14 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <2ej96j1mbvgiok4q5c57vdlo94itpfu5dt@4ax.com>:
>> 
>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Free hint:  don't use something you're not into using.  What little
>>>>>>> I've seen of Python seemed like a child's toy, but guess what, I
>>>>>>> didn't explore further.  Relax, smoke a doobie, dude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should dig a little deeper.
>>>>>
>>>>> To do what?
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what you want to do with a computer. Do you do data
>>>> analysis? Python with pandas, numpy, and related modules is overtaking R
>>>> in that field. The python implementations are usually faster than R which
>>>> says something about R's lack of performance.
>>>>
>>>> Machine learning? PyTorch and TensorFlow offer two approaches. Create a
>>>> desktop GUI applcation? I prefer Pyside6, which is a Qt binding, but there
>>>> are other alternatives including Tkinter.  Web application? Django, Flask,
>>>> and FastAPI offer different approaches and degrees of opinionation. Work
>>>> with microcontrollers using the RP2040 chip. MicroPython and CircuitPython
>>>> make rapid development possible.  Like comics? I have a script that gets
>>>> the ones I'm interested in from gocomics.  Music? I've got one that
>>>> queries the itunes data base for artist or song information. Databases?
>>>> Pick your poison.
>>>>
>>>> So, what do you want to do? Of course you can do all of the above with C,
>>>> C++, or another language but you may be writing more code and doing more
>>>> debugging. If the Python prototype is too slow you can rewrite it. For
>>>> example I did the itunes thing in both Python and C#.NET to test the .NET
>>>> SDK on Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't imagine I'd need anything beyond C.
>> 
>> My go-to language has always been perl, but I use
>> C when I need performance...or very strict security,
>> like with a setuid wrapper.
>> 
>> Python is filling the niche that perl had before it
>> kind of stagnated[*].  If I want to slurp in a huge json
>> file and analyze it, I'd probably write that in perl (and
>> I have, in one case).
>> 
>> [*] Or rather, took off into the weeds...
>> 
>> I asked chatGPT to write a "quine" in python recently,
>> and found it extremely easy to improve on the answer it
>> gave me:
>> 
>> $ cat quine.py
>> #!/usr/bin/python3
>> 
>> with open(__file__, 'r') as file:
>>      print(file.read())
>> - -%<- -
>> 
> it's me it's me

I can see it's you...

Are you going to run Linux Mint on your new whiz-bang
computer?

(We both know someone in another 'froup that uses Ubuntu Linux...
a veritable Linux grandma!)

-- 
-v