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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Proof that DD correctly simulated by HH provides the correct halt status criteria Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 07:49:22 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 88 Message-ID: <v448ci$3fscf$2@dont-email.me> References: <v3vv8a$287qb$1@dont-email.me> <v40rl0$2g7gn$1@dont-email.me> <v41imt$2jqdk$4@dont-email.me> <v43lac$3a1cg$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 14:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f8e472f6a5ded880f3c8d2cedf42e75a"; logging-data="3666319"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ewz3DWoQRBbwPWJNA5nq5" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BqWQW8uuWrdjj+hDIw0O0b1oitk= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v43lac$3a1cg$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4496 On 6/9/2024 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-06-08 12:27:09 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 6/8/2024 12:53 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-06-07 21:48:57 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> *That no counter-example to the following exists proves that it is >>>> true* >>> >>> Not wihout a proof that no counter-example exists. >>> >> >> I incorporate by reference >> (a) The x86 language >> (b) The notion of an x86 emulator >> >> (c) I provide this complete function >> >> void DDD(int (*x)()) >> { >> HH(x, x); >> } >> >> _DDD() >> [00001de2] 55 push ebp >> [00001de3] 8bec mov ebp,esp >> [00001de5] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] >> [00001de8] 50 push eax ; push DDD >> [00001de9] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] >> [00001dec] 51 push ecx ; push DDD >> [00001ded] e890f5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH >> [00001df2] 83c408 add esp,+08 >> [00001df5] 5d pop ebp >> [00001df6] c3 ret >> Size in bytes:(0021) [00001df6] >> >> Then I state that No DDD correctly emulated by any >> x86 emulator H can possibly reach its own [00001df6] >> instruction. >> >> To anyone having this mandatory prerequisite knowledge >> (perhaps not you) every x86 emulation of DDD by any >> x86 emulator H continually repeats the first seven lines >> of DDD until it crashes due to out-of-memory error. >> >> Try and show that the above sequence is incorrect, you >> cannot because it is correct. > > OK. Tell us when you have a proof with that incorporated. > That <is> a complete proof to anyone that has all of the mandatory prerequisite knowledge. The first seven steps of DDD correctly simulated by HH call HH(DDD,DDD) to repeat these first seven steps. HH then simulates itself simulating DD until this second instance of DDD calls another HH(DDD,DDD) to repeat these first seven steps again. New slave_stack at:103278 Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution Trace Stored at:113280 machine stack stack machine assembly address address data code language ======== ======== ======== ========= ============= [00001df3][0011326c][00113270] 55 push ebp [00001df4][0011326c][00113270] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00001df6][0011326c][00113270] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] [00001df9][00113268][00001df3] 50 push eax ; push DDD [00001dfa][00113268][00001df3] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] [00001dfd][00113264][00001df3] 51 push ecx ; push DDD [00001dfe][00113260][00001e03] e830f5ffff call 00001333 ; call HH New slave_stack at:14dca0 [00001df3][0015dc94][0015dc98] 55 push ebp [00001df4][0015dc94][0015dc98] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00001df6][0015dc94][0015dc98] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] [00001df9][0015dc90][00001df3] 50 push eax ; push DDD [00001dfa][0015dc90][00001df3] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] [00001dfd][0015dc8c][00001df3] 51 push ecx ; push DD [00001dfe][0015dc88][00001e03] e830f5ffff call 00001333 ; call HH Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer