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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory Subject: Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 13:48:31 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: <v44tdv$3m841$5@dont-email.me> References: <v44i60$3jnc8$1@dont-email.me> <v44r28$3egpa$4@i2pn2.org> <v44r6c$3m841$1@dont-email.me> <v44sdg$3egp9$12@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 20:48:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f8e472f6a5ded880f3c8d2cedf42e75a"; logging-data="3874945"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+OTogbYGt1JtNNbG6nZybL" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:z3UcYSGNviKuLMWxX2Z2+9Fi2cY= In-Reply-To: <v44sdg$3egp9$12@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3357 On 6/9/2024 1:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/9/24 2:10 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/9/2024 1:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/9/24 11:36 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> *This has direct application to undecidable decision problems* >>>> >>>> When we ask the question: What is a truthmaker? The generic answer is >>>> whatever makes an expression of language true <is> its truthmaker. This >>>> entails that if there is nothing in the universe that makes >>>> expression X >>>> true then X lacks a truthmaker and is untrue. >>> >>> I guess you don't understand Formal Logic then. >>> >>> If Formal logic, the logic system starts with an explicit listing of >>> statements and definitions that are considered "True" and logical >>> operations that are considered VALID. >>> >>>> >>>> X may be untrue because X is false. In that case ~X has a truthmaker. >>>> Now we have the means to unequivocally define truth-bearer. X is a >>>> truth-bearer iff (if and only if) X or ~X has a truthmaker. >>>> >>>> I have been working in this same area as a non-academician for a few >>>> years. I have only focused on expressions of language that are {true on >>>> the basis of their meaning}. >>>> >>> >>> Which seems to mean you have focused on general Philosophy, and NOT >>> formal logic, which has a much broader definition of "truth", and >>> thus room to argue it. >> >> When I specify the ultimate foundation of all truth then this >> does apply to truth in logic, truth in math and truth in science. >> > > Except that such a foundation only applies to logics built on that > foundation. > Clearly you do not comprehend the term: The actual {ultimate foundation of all truth}. Nonsense systems can be created where 2 + 3 = "I fell down and hurt my knee." For the actual correct notion of an expression of language with the property of {True} something making it true is required or it is untrue. We can stipulate a term-of-the-art where "True(x)" means a bucket of rusted bolts sitting in our front yard. That has no effect what-so-ever on actual {True}. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer