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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Challenger Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:05:33 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <v458vd$3kncn$11@dont-email.me> References: <5a5a6jtfh1je18lr297jrh10oihptl2tgo@4ax.com> <v43l6g$39bjl$1@dont-email.me> <c3hb6jdrp9v6rjnsd03ki2levj4ohnna8m@4ax.com> <v44op9$3kncn$6@dont-email.me> <3ltb6j1v7miinkbhb0f3n6gknud5j9eeb8@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 00:05:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9c75a858d8570c0dbf2155857995774c"; logging-data="3825047"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BmdXlK7KT4mD4IhpQotIj8k3QCYMQj8M=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JFafUXWtls19fsCTa1Sew8AlikY= Bytes: 2701 On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 11:47:50 -0700, john larkin wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 17:29:13 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom > <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: > >>On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 08:08:26 -0700, john larkin wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 08:21:52 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On 09/06/2024 03:42, john larkin wrote: >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Challenger-Story-Heroism-Disaster-Space/dp/ >>198217661X >>>>> >>>>> This is a very well researched and written book, and a sad, ghastly >>>>> story. >>>>> >>>>> It reminds me that humans have no purpose in space but to die. >>>> >>>>That's a very jaundiced and negative view. Firstly, they weren't in >>>>space when they died; they were at 46000 feet, which was below the >>>>operational height of Concorde. >>> >>> Dead is dead. Optimistically, they died instantly but probably not. >> >>I would guess it must have been very much like being exposed to a >>nuclear blast. So basically frazzled to death over several seconds. Not >>nice. > > The crew may have been alive when the cabin hit the water. The recovery > of the remains and the forensics was grim. I'm shocked that NASA ever > flew another shuttle. > > The tiles and the SRBs and the external tanks and the engines were all > known hazards. Columbia was the nail in the coffin. > > Two shuttles out of five were lost. NASA estimated that the loss rate > would be 1 in 100,000 flights. So about as reliable a statistic as their figures for historical CO2 in the atmosphere, then.