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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 17:10:02 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <v45ga0$3taqk$2@dont-email.me> References: <v42ndi$2spjg$1@dont-email.me> <v44k7m$3k48m$1@dont-email.me> <v44p20$3lam7$3@dont-email.me> <v45b70$3radd$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 02:10:42 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="49fd7dc594caad62786a3c23aebde2cd"; logging-data="4107092"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18CgpREdsl6lpPv+hQ9duz6" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:uzKQg6j5RrvW1c9JFRuYOxsgudI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v45b70$3radd$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2564 On 6/9/2024 3:43 PM, TTman wrote: > >> >>> It has become more of a problem now that everyone has an iToy that needs >>> charging on a daily basis. Trivial loads but many sockets needed. >> >> This -- hence my reference to "number of outlets" and not "power available". > > In the UK, it's common now to fit double plug sockets that have built in dual > USB outlets that can supply 2A per USB socket. Yes, you can buy duplex outlets that have USB-A and/or -C chargers built in (I think 3.6A total). But, as our outlets are relatively small, this makes for a crowded outlet if USB devices try to share that space with a pair of mains powered devices: <https://www.universalsecuritystore.com/store/images/products/large_images/usb2r2wh20a36-usi-electric-20-amp-usb-charger-duplex-wall-outlet-2.jpg> > We have 2 in our kitchen as a retro fit so we can charge 4 devices. I'm not sure if this is a good, long-term solution (if you already have an abundance of outlets, already) as a failure in that charger now requires the outlet to be replaced (instead of just unplugging and discarding a small plug-in charger) And, as most outlets (in rooms other than the kitchen) are located just above the floor level, the value of them in those places is dubious (do you have a surface nearby on which you could set the device(s) being charged?)