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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Simplified proof that DDD correctly simulated by HHH does not halt Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 19:26:48 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 59 Message-ID: <v45h88$3tjc2$1@dont-email.me> References: <v44dle$3i5jo$2@dont-email.me> <v44jvn$3jnc8$3@dont-email.me> <v44qin$3g17f$5@i2pn2.org> <v44ru8$3m841$3@dont-email.me> <v44usm$3g17f$6@i2pn2.org> <v45fq4$3sv37$1@dont-email.me> <v45h1l$3h642$1@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 02:26:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f6820c6f88a6ab7f47362bcc86c8cb3a"; logging-data="4115842"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Yo2I7IyPR/drE7fVjUZgd" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gmQPNf1f7mAFUjxsA3AJhNrL2o0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v45h1l$3h642$1@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3194 On 6/9/2024 7:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/9/24 8:02 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/9/2024 2:13 PM, joes wrote: >>> Am Sun, 09 Jun 2024 13:23:04 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 6/9/2024 12:59 PM, joes wrote: >>>>> Am Sun, 09 Jun 2024 11:07:19 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)(); // pointer to void function 01 void HHH(ptr >>>>>> P, ptr I) >>>>>> 02 { >>>>>> 03 P(I); >>>>>> 04 return; >>>>>> 05 } >>>>>> 06 07 void DDD(int (*x)()) >>>>>> 08 { >>>>>> 09 HHH(x, x); >>>>>> 10 return; >>>>>> 11 } >>>>>> 12 13 int main() >>>>>> 14 { >>>>>> 15 HHH(DDD,DDD); >>>>>> 16 } >>>>>> 17 >>>>> >>>>>> In the above Neither DDD nor HHH ever reach their own return >>>>>> statement >>>>>> thus never halt. >>>>>> Most of my reviewers incorrectly believe that when HH(DD,DD) aborts >>>>>> its simulated input that this simulated input halts. >>>> >>>> You chopped out the mandatory prerequisite. >>>> Please go back and prove that you understand what infinite recursion is >>>> before proceeding. >>> Dude, I've got nothing to prove to you. >> >> OK then we are done talking. >> >>> You instead could explain how you >>> can call a simulation that differs from the direct execution "correct". >>> Or why H and HH are different. >>> >> >> I could but you refuse to go through the steps of the proof, >> one-at-a-time with mutual agreement at each step. >> >> I am not going to tolerate circular head games that never >> result in any mutual agreement. >> > > I.E. Someone else is calling you out on your incorrect logic, so you are > threatening to take your ball and go home., > We must go through the steps one-at-a-time and have mutual agreement on each step to eliminate miscommunication intentional or otherwise. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer