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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Quantum mystics Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:15:51 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <v47qa7$ko5c$1@dont-email.me> References: <v44t6u$3n7fn$1@dont-email.me> <v4651b$1ejef$1@solani.org> <gm2e6jdple0j6iuskqjkig5vfcqruq7pj4@4ax.com> <v4799p$h5qj$2@dont-email.me> <v47d37$hnfj$2@dont-email.me> <v47gh8$isp6$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:13:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6f74b2c313d93f30388b5e90f23423bd"; logging-data="680108"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX196Jk2gVyS36WR9OKx7xeCo" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:OF1zra3vLhNzwwr24NBhvhijUrg= In-Reply-To: <v47gh8$isp6$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2737 On 6/10/24 20:26, Phil Hobbs wrote: [Snip...] > > Sticking with the semiclassical picture of photodetection is good, because > it avoids almost all of the blunders made by the photons-as-billiard-balls > folk, but it doesn’t get you out of the mystery. > > The really mysterious thing about photodetection is that a given photon (*) > > incident on a large lossless detector gives rise to exactly one detection > event, with probability spatialy and temporally weighted by E**2. > > Doesn’t seem so bad yet, but consider this: > If the detector is large compared with the pulse width/c, distant points on > the detector are separated by a spacelike interval. > > That means that so when point A detects it, there is no way for the > information reach point B before the end of the pulse, when E drops to > zero, and yet experimentally point B doesn’t detect it. > > (*) a quantized excitation of a harmonic oscillator mode of the EM field in > a given set of boundary conditions) > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs We don't have single-photon-on-demand sources, nor perfect detectors. Both sources and detectors are probabilistic. I'd like to see how this argument fares using energy resolving detectors like TESs. I do not expect the probability of a detection event in one spot to be affected instantly by a detection event somewhere else. The collapse of the wave function is an attempt to apply statistical reasoning to a single event. Jeroen Belleman