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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: (OT) Windows 10 won't back up to an internal HD? Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:28:58 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 78 Message-ID: <v48cp9$rmod$1@dont-email.me> References: <v416ud$2hs3a$1@dont-email.me> <24q9O.17886$6Fcc.17282@fx09.iad> <v45epk$3sn8a$1@dont-email.me> <QzB9O.18244$6Fcc.7350@fx09.iad> <v476e1$h0jt$1@dont-email.me> <ZuF9O.48375$1ip2.15887@fx12.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 04:28:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="76070370f940e3b30460a3350f1255eb"; logging-data="908045"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6+xEn3Rk4BLNeTSJPZQrQ" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YP6SZ5k81Y4rJF0FKucM/3hf3xE= Bytes: 5528 On 2024-06-10, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2024-06-10 11:34 a.m., RonB wrote: >> On 2024-06-10, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >>> On 2024-06-09 7:44 p.m., RonB wrote: >>>> On 2024-06-09, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >>>>> On 2024-06-08 5:06 a.m., RonB wrote: >>>>>> My wife's Windows 10 computer (Inspiron, not my choice) came with a 256GB >>>>>> SSD and a 1TB hard drive. Stupid me, I assumed that Dell would set up it up >>>>>> so the program data would save on the TB hard drive and the applications >>>>>> would run from the SSD. Nope. Everything ran on the SSD and all data was >>>>>> saved there. The hard drive is just a drone, sitting there and doing >>>>>> nothing. (I just discovered this.) >>>>>> >>>>>> So after about three years, her computer slowed way down. I assumed she >>>>>> needed more memory and bought a 32GB SIM (so she now has 40GBs of RAM). >>>>>> Still slow. Then I realized that she had filled up her SSD. It actually had >>>>>> only 25MBs free tonight. It's a wonder it ran at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I ordered a 1TB SSD, and tonight cloned it in an external enclosure and >>>>>> installed it. Worked well (the SSD came with Acronis True Disk). I saw that >>>>>> Acronis had a backup utility as well, so figured I would back up the new SSD >>>>>> to the practically unused hard drive... and I found out Microsoft doesn't >>>>>> like backing up to an internal hard drive. Why does it have this limitation? >>>>>> >>>>>> For those of you who use Windows, is there any way to make Windows 10 back >>>>>> up to an internal hard drive? I've seen something about making the internal >>>>>> drive a "network drive," which seems kind of convoluted. Is there any >>>>>> application that overrides this (to me) senseless limitation? And why does >>>>>> Windows 10 have this limitation — is there a logical reason for it? >>>>>> (Apparently Windows 7 didn't have this limitation.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind of ranting. Sorry. But I would like to see my wife's internal hard >>>>>> drive set up for backups — if possible. >>>>> >>>>> It might be a situation similar to my mother's Intel NUC. There were two >>>>> HDs in there, one of which was used exclusively to re-image the SSD in >>>>> case of failure. As far as I know, it was write-protected though I have >>>>> never admitted to actually use it. >>>> >>>> No, the hard drive is just a standard hard drive (it's seen as the D: >>>> drive). You can access it and copy files to it manually, but you can't set >>>> up backup on it (directly from Windows, anyhow). Apparently this changed >>>> with the release of Windows 10, Windows 7 (and, I think, 8) would backup to >>>> internal hard drives. I've got to believe there is an application to do >>>> this, but none that I've found so far specifically say they will work with >>>> an internal hard drive. I really don't quite understand why Windows 10/11 >>>> has this limitation. >>> >>> I'm surprised that anyone even uses the Windows Backup system, to be >>> honest. Every time I've taken a look at it, it appeared to be little >>> more than an automated process to copy your Documents and Pictures >>> folders elsewhere. >> >> I'm totally ignorant about the best way to back up Windows. I just know I >> have a 1 TB drive that's not being used and figured it would work well to >> back up the SSD. >> >> Any suggestions on backup software. The SSD came with Acronis (and includes >> a backup feature, but it doesn't allow me to use the internal hard drive for >> this? > > Macrium Reflect is a popular option. Instead of doing a traditional > backup, it images the storage so that it can be restored within a few > minutes. I'm not sure if the product still works as well as it used to, > but I loved it. I had remembered that you used to mention Macrium Reflect, so I looked it up. They now rent rent by the year for $65 (that's supposedly an introductory price). But even with them, I don't know if they will back up to an internal hard drive. My wife already uses OneDrive, so she doesn't see the need for a local backup — it's more me not wanting the hard drive to "go to waste." -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine