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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: (OT) Windows 10 won't back up to an internal HD?
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:33:31 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-06-10, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-06-10 11:34 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-06-10, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-09 7:44 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-09, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-08 5:06 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>> My wife's Windows 10 computer (Inspiron, not my choice) came with a 256GB
>>>>>> SSD and a 1TB hard drive. Stupid me, I assumed that Dell would set up it up
>>>>>> so the program data would save on the TB hard drive and the applications
>>>>>> would run from the SSD. Nope. Everything ran on the SSD and all data was
>>>>>> saved there. The hard drive is just a drone, sitting there and doing
>>>>>> nothing. (I just discovered this.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So after about three years, her computer slowed way down. I assumed she
>>>>>> needed more memory and bought a 32GB SIM (so she now has 40GBs of RAM).
>>>>>> Still slow. Then I realized that she had filled up her SSD. It actually had
>>>>>> only 25MBs free tonight. It's a wonder it ran at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I ordered a 1TB SSD, and tonight cloned it in an external enclosure and
>>>>>> installed it. Worked well (the SSD came with Acronis True Disk). I saw that
>>>>>> Acronis had a backup utility as well, so figured I would back up the new SSD
>>>>>> to the practically unused hard drive... and I found out Microsoft doesn't
>>>>>> like backing up to an internal hard drive. Why does it have this limitation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those of you who use Windows, is there any way to make Windows 10 back
>>>>>> up to an internal hard drive? I've seen something about making the internal
>>>>>> drive a "network drive," which seems kind of convoluted. Is there any
>>>>>> application that overrides this (to me) senseless limitation? And why does
>>>>>> Windows 10 have this limitation — is there a logical reason for it?
>>>>>> (Apparently Windows 7 didn't have this limitation.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind of ranting. Sorry. But I would like to see my wife's internal hard
>>>>>> drive set up for backups — if possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might be a situation similar to my mother's Intel NUC. There were two
>>>>> HDs in there, one of which was used exclusively to re-image the SSD in
>>>>> case of failure. As far as I know, it was write-protected though I have
>>>>> never admitted to actually use it.
>>>>
>>>> No, the hard drive is just a standard hard drive (it's seen as the D:
>>>> drive). You can access it and copy files to it manually, but you can't set
>>>> up backup on it (directly from Windows, anyhow). Apparently this changed
>>>> with the release of Windows 10, Windows 7 (and, I think, 8) would backup to
>>>> internal hard drives. I've got to believe there is an application to do
>>>> this, but none that I've found so far specifically say they will work with
>>>> an internal hard drive. I really don't quite understand why Windows 10/11
>>>> has this limitation.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised that anyone even uses the Windows Backup system, to be
>>> honest. Every time I've taken a look at it, it appeared to be little
>>> more than an automated process to copy your Documents and Pictures
>>> folders elsewhere.
>> 
>> I'm totally ignorant about the best way to back up Windows. I just know I
>> have a 1 TB drive that's not being used and figured it would work well to
>> back up the SSD.
>> 
>> Any suggestions on backup software. The SSD came with Acronis (and includes
>> a backup feature, but it doesn't allow me to use the internal hard drive for
>> this?
>
> Here is what Brave's search offered me when I searched for a free 
> alternative to Macrium Reflect:
>
> Veeam Agent: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect with most of the same 
> features. Check the latest release as it might have fixed the issue 
> you’re experiencing.
> Rescuezilla: An open-source, free alternative to Macrium Reflect. It’s 
> also a disk imaging tool that can be used for backups and cloning.
> Clonezilla: A free and open-source disk cloning tool that can be used as 
> an alternative to Macrium Reflect.
> Duplicati: A free, open-source backup tool that can be used for disk 
> imaging and cloning.
> Déjà Dup: A free, open-source backup tool that can be used for disk 
> imaging and cloning.
> Redo Rescue: A free, open-source disk imaging tool that can be used as 
> an alternative to Macrium Reflect.
> AOMEI Backupper: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect with more 
> complete features. It’s a disk imaging and cloning tool that can be used 
> for backups and cloning.
> EaseUS ToDo Backup: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect that supports 
> disk image backups on a fixed backup schedule.
> MiniTool ShadowMaker: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect that 
> supports disk image backups and cloning.
> Paragon Backup & Recovery: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect that 
> supports disk image backups and cloning.
> FBackup: A free backup software for both personal and commercial use 
> that can be used as an alternative to Macrium Reflect.

Okay, thanks. I've saved your list to Simplenote and will work through them. 
I think I have looked at a couple of them and they had the same limitation 
on not using the internal hard drive.

At any rate, thanks for the list.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." 
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