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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Privilege Levels Below User Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 04:07:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <v48ihl$sc37$8@dont-email.me> References: <jai66jd4ih4ejmek0abnl4gvg5td4obsqg@4ax.com> <Z9I8O.13$2JEf.11@fx14.iad> <5h%8O.4327$wDZ.776@fx48.iad> <1316e4baa439de908666e38c39cd8c79@www.novabbs.org> <ywE9O.33$46t.1@fx46.iad> <2024Jun10.172351@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 06:07:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="631f869a34a46d5df9e0635873afdf43"; logging-data="929895"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+vHovtyOEi9vZDqMo9ZpzN" User-Agent: Pan/0.158 (Avdiivka; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LFWa3Jl/KdBjiByD64wIsclt6hI= Bytes: 2371 On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:23:51 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote: > One other thing they did: they had one PAL code coming with the SRM > console for VMS and Digital OSF/1, and another PAL code with the > ARC/AlphaBIOS console for Windows NT and Linux. This allowed them to > charge extra (quite a lot) for hardware capable of running their premium > OSs, while providing almost competetive prices for hardware running PC > OSs. Let me offer an anecdote related (or not?) to this. I had a client with several DEC Alphas, all running DEC Unix (variously branded “OSF/1” and “Tru64”). The battery died on one of them, and it came up with a prompt asking for a Windows NT boot disk. Both the user and I felt disappointed that a piece of such premium DEC hardware, when it lost its mind, would default to asking for Windows NT, of all OSes. > Unfortunately, the PC-like package was still not price/performance > competetive, and AlphaBIOS (which we had on our EV56 boxes) was a horror > to work with. Windows NT was a disaster to the entire Unix workstation market. The irony was, NT “Workstation” wasn’t really feature-equivalent to the OSes the Unix workstations were running. But it was enough for the customers, it seems ...