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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- Richard admits his error Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:31:30 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 71 Message-ID: <v48jv2$se9c$1@dont-email.me> References: <v45tec$4q15$1@dont-email.me> <v46na7$3ifov$4@i2pn2.org> <v48be9$rgsh$1@dont-email.me> <v48gh6$3kcoe$4@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 06:31:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7511da41317e1c66c22f772cd659795f"; logging-data="932140"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19lPIVogPZ630VT9JtppDg7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:WIA1A0vso8VD7OawICmrDJRyVcU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v48gh6$3kcoe$4@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4513 On 6/10/2024 10:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/10/24 10:06 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/10/2024 6:16 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/9/24 11:54 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> *No one has verified the actual facts of this for THREE YEARS* >>>> *No one has verified the actual facts of this for THREE YEARS* >>>> *No one has verified the actual facts of this for THREE YEARS* >>> >>> So, I guess you are admitting that you claim it as a verified fact is >>> just a LIE. >>> >>>> >>>> On 5/29/2021 2:26 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.theory/c/dTvIY5NX6b4/m/cHR2ZPgPBAAJ >>>> >>>> THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY for D simulated by H to have the same >>>> behavior as the directly executed D(D) is for the instructions >>>> of D to be incorrectly simulated by H (details provided below). >>> >>> So, I guess you are admitting that this means that "D correctly >>> simulated by H" is NOT a possible equivalent statement for the >>> behavior of the direct execution of the input as required by the >>> Halting Problem, so you admit you have been LYING every time you >>> imply that it is. >>> >>>> >>>> _D() >>>> [00000cfc](01) 55 push ebp >>>> [00000cfd](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp >>>> [00000cff](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] >>>> [00000d02](01) 50 push eax ; push D >>>> [00000d03](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] >>>> [00000d06](01) 51 push ecx ; push D >>>> [00000d07](05) e800feffff call 00000b0c ; call H >>>> [00000d0c](03) 83c408 add esp,+08 >>>> [00000d0f](02) 85c0 test eax,eax >>>> [00000d11](02) 7404 jz 00000d17 >>>> [00000d13](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax >>>> [00000d15](02) eb05 jmp 00000d1c >>>> [00000d17](05) b801000000 mov eax,00000001 >>>> [00000d1c](01) 5d pop ebp >>>> [00000d1d](01) c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0034) [00000d1d] >>>> >>>> In order for D simulated by H to have the same behavior as the >>>> directly executed D(D) H must ignore the instruction at machine >>>> address [00000d07]. *That is an incorrect simulation of D* >>> >>> No, H can, and must, simulate the call instruction correctly. >>> >> >> *Ah so you finally admit that the directly executed D(D) that* >> *cannot possibly reach this instruction *is not* the behavior* >> *of D correctly simulated by H that reaches this instruction* >> *and simulates H simulating H* >> > > No, I admit that THIS H didn't do it, *This H does do it* D is correctly simulated by H and H simulates itself simulating D as the above line of code requires. The directly executed D(D) can't possibly reach that line of code thus proving that it has different behavior than D correctly simulated by H. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer