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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory Subject: Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 20:43:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <v4aufn$1apao$1@dont-email.me> References: <v44i60$3jnc8$1@dont-email.me> <v44o5t$3l9t2$1@dont-email.me> <v44r29$3egpa$5@i2pn2.org> <v44rd0$3m841$2@dont-email.me> <v44sa5$3egpa$10@i2pn2.org> <v44suh$3m841$4@dont-email.me> <v44toi$3egp9$13@i2pn2.org> <v44ujh$3m841$6@dont-email.me> <v4508h$3egpa$11@i2pn2.org> <v45pfb$3ph0$1@dont-email.me> <v45q1d$3h641$7@i2pn2.org> <v45qvp$41qf$1@dont-email.me> <v46na2$3ifov$2@i2pn2.org> <v478g9$hcgj$1@dont-email.me> <v48gh2$3kcoe$2@i2pn2.org> <v4a1jk$15ems$1@dont-email.me> <v4am8g$3n8ob$1@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 03:43:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6f170c39f5487c8533188545300f883a"; logging-data="1402200"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/t+S8M5MfVZJp/6hv0RctA" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8SOPak6teyQEa0HLjpFMVyA+L+A= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v4am8g$3n8ob$1@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3002 On 6/11/2024 6:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/11/24 1:30 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/10/2024 10:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/10/24 12:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> When we ask the question: What is a truthmaker? The generic answer is >>>> whatever makes an expression of language true <is> its truthmaker. >>>> >>>> This entails that if there is nothing in the universe that makes >>>> expression X true then X lacks a truthmaker and is untrue. >>>> >>>> Then it is self-evident that this <is> the way that truth really works. >>>> >>> >>> So, how does that apply to something that isn't a part of "the >>> universe", as Formal Logic systems are not. >>> >> >> *STOPPING AT YOUR FIRST RIDICULOUSLY HUGE MISTAKE* >> In other words you are saying that formal system have never >> existing in any way what-so-ever? > > Nope, and I don't see where you get that from, except to not understand > the meaning of a universe. > The universe is all of space and time[a] and their contents. It comprises all of existence, any fundamental interaction, physical process and physical constant, and therefore all forms of energy and matter, and the structures they form, from sub-atomic particles to entire galactic filaments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe AKA *EVERYTHING* Duh ! -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer