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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: System UICs Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 02:38:27 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <v4b1n2$1evff$2@dont-email.me> References: <lcg1n2Fm6huU1@mid.individual.net> <v3ut10$22bph$1@dont-email.me> <v407j1$298kq$1@dont-email.me> <v40av8$29vru$1@dont-email.me> <v47k0j$jhpn$1@dont-email.me> <mddle3csfwz.fsf@panix5.panix.com> <v48h87$sc37$1@dont-email.me> <mdded93j7nl.fsf@panix5.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 04:38:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="114c653c06754bac2979cba4b47e2f9e"; logging-data="1539567"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+fDHViFGEiGh5Y4C8dzpEf" User-Agent: Pan/0.158 (Avdiivka; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XRLrZ3eHiXkblqHb/lVs601Ezek= Bytes: 2273 On 11 Jun 2024 21:01:50 -0400, Rich Alderson wrote: > If you ever encountered a CompuServe ID, you were looking at a Tops-10 > PPN in a different syntax. It just clicked with me that CompuServe were using a lot of TOPS-10 machines, and that was well into the 1980s. > RSX-15 was the original; RSX-11 was a reimplementation on the 16-bit > hardware. That I never knew. >> A separation of terminology indicating some kind of cultural >> separation within DEC itself? > > Since each product line was a separate culture, by design, that's > hardly surprising. Still, it has to be said, DEC’s product lines were never quite as fragmented as, say, IBM’s. Consider that IBM is credited with inventing “virtual machines”, but this wasn’t some elegant resource-management technology, it was just a big hack, initially to offer timeshared multi-user service for an OS (CMS) that was interactive, but only single-user. Whereas on the PDP-11, DEC created RSTS/E, which somehow managed to directly run a subset of binaries from RT-11 and RSX-11, in addition to its own native ones.