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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory Subject: Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 21:58:17 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <v4b2sa$1f89t$1@dont-email.me> References: <v44i60$3jnc8$1@dont-email.me> <v44o5t$3l9t2$1@dont-email.me> <v44r29$3egpa$5@i2pn2.org> <v44rd0$3m841$2@dont-email.me> <v44sa5$3egpa$10@i2pn2.org> <v44suh$3m841$4@dont-email.me> <v44toi$3egp9$13@i2pn2.org> <v44ujh$3m841$6@dont-email.me> <v4508h$3egpa$11@i2pn2.org> <v45pfb$3ph0$1@dont-email.me> <v45q1d$3h641$7@i2pn2.org> <v45qvp$41qf$1@dont-email.me> <v46na2$3ifov$2@i2pn2.org> <v478g9$hcgj$1@dont-email.me> <v48gh2$3kcoe$2@i2pn2.org> <v4a1jk$15ems$1@dont-email.me> <v4am8g$3n8ob$1@i2pn2.org> <v4aufn$1apao$1@dont-email.me> <v4b1gd$3nf9m$8@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 04:58:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6f170c39f5487c8533188545300f883a"; logging-data="1548605"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19h7XnSg3JLIap0h9IYg0pM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:X54ijQhzoWptFtEILwgScYQvXsQ= In-Reply-To: <v4b1gd$3nf9m$8@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3333 On 6/11/2024 9:34 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/11/24 9:43 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/11/2024 6:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/11/24 1:30 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/10/2024 10:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/10/24 12:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> When we ask the question: What is a truthmaker? The generic answer is >>>>>> whatever makes an expression of language true <is> its truthmaker. >>>>>> >>>>>> This entails that if there is nothing in the universe that makes >>>>>> expression X true then X lacks a truthmaker and is untrue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then it is self-evident that this <is> the way that truth really >>>>>> works. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, how does that apply to something that isn't a part of "the >>>>> universe", as Formal Logic systems are not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> *STOPPING AT YOUR FIRST RIDICULOUSLY HUGE MISTAKE* >>>> In other words you are saying that formal system have never >>>> existing in any way what-so-ever? >>> >>> Nope, and I don't see where you get that from, except to not >>> understand the meaning of a universe. >>> >> >> The universe is all of space and time[a] and their contents. >> It comprises all of existence, any fundamental interaction, physical >> process and physical constant, and therefore all forms of energy and >> matter, and the structures they form, from sub-atomic particles to >> entire galactic filaments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe >> >> AKA *EVERYTHING* Duh ! >> > > But it is only ONE of an infinite number of such systems. > So I have to dumb it down for you: *EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE* -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer