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From: JAB <noway@nochance.com>
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Subject: Re: I bet Remedy regrets that deal now...
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:44:21 +0100
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On 11/06/2024 20:41, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 08:45:00 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/06/2024 23:38, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> Same. Again, it doesn't help that Epic doesn't really do much to
>>> broadcast its exclusives. And many people, they hear a game is on
>>> Epic, they go, "Oh, well, I'll just wait until its on Steam", and then
>>> forget the game exists until it arrives on Valve's platform.
>>
>> That's certainly my attitude, the days when I just had to have a game
>> are long gone. It's the same with all the freebies they give out.
>> There's some that I look at and wouldn't mind playing but as yet nothing
>> that I've thought I want that so much that I'll sign up with Epic.
> 
> I have an account with them and grab the games, but I don't actually
> play any of them on Epic. I like to think that, somehow, I'm costing
> Epic money by doing so. ;-)
> 
> Epic burned a lot of goodwill with gamers with how it handled the Epic
> Game store and I don't think it ever will fully recover from that
> blow. It was bad enough that it was seen as an unnecessary product
> that existed only for Epic's benefit. And it didn't help that Epic had
> made a number of anti-PC gaming decisions and statements in years
> previous. Badmouthing Valve, who was -fairly or not- seen as the
> darling of PC Gaming didn't help either. But then locking games behind
> years-long exclusivity contracts (and not backing down when it was
> clear how unpopular this move was) was the final straw.
> 
> AFAIK, the Epic Game Store remains an unprofitable money-sink. The
> latest estimates I've seen say it isn't expected to start seeing
> positive revenue until 2027 (about five years later than originally
> anticipated). A lot of that pain could have been avoided had Epic not
> gone into the market so bullishly, or had shown some more appreciation
> for their consumers.
> 

Part of what pees me off about Epic is the way they've tried to portray 
themselves as the pro-PC games guys who are been bullied by the likes of 
Valve and Apple. Do they really think that consumers are in general that 
stupid*.

Their approach also seemed rather simplistic in that they used giveaways 
and exclusives to get people to their store front but their really 
wasn't any incentive to stay there. Why would I switch from Steam?

*The impression I get is that a lot of top executives really do think 
that I've done really well so I must be intelligent, our customers have 
done no where near as well so they must be stupid as should be treated 
accordingly.