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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:17:42 -0500
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On 6/12/2024 10:15 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/12/24 10:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 9:42 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/12/24 10:32 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/12/2024 9:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/12/24 10:01 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 8:53 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/12/24 9:37 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 7:57 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope. The concept and definition of natural numbers exist, but 
>>>>>>>>> doesn't derive from any part of the "universe".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note, they don't "exist" as a substance, only as a concept, and 
>>>>>>>>> the universe is substance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OF EVERYTHING IF THERE IS NOTHING THAT MAKES AN EXPRESSION
>>>>>>>> OF LANGUAGE X TRUE THENN (THEN AND ONLY THEN) X HAS NO TRUTH-MAKER.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And how can we tell that there is nothing that makes the 
>>>>>>> expression of language true?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes the expression: "a frog" true?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know, what makes the expression: "a frog" true?
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be if put besides the picture of a frog, or a cage holding 
>>>>> one, or a box with a disection kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean that Russel's Teapot has a truth-maker, because we 
>>>>>>> can not show that there is nothing that makes it true?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Truth need not be known.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why do you insisit it must be provable?
>>>>>
>>>>>> If of EVERYTHING there is NOTHING that makes an expression
>>>>>> of language X true then X is untrue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that only include things in that universe, or of any universe?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I changed my freaking words because you had trouble with the other
>>>> words. WHEN I CHANGE THE WORDS TO MAKE THEM CLEARER I AM NOT FREAKING
>>>> USING THE ORIGINAL FREAKING WORDS.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And thus show that you don't have the mental ability to properly 
>>> communicate.
>>>
>>
>> That is your excuse for not freaking paying attention?
>> IT WAS YOU THAT DID NOT PAY ATTENTION.
>>
>> I changed the words in my paper based on your feedback.
>> I have always used the term UNIVERSE to exactly mean EVERYTHING.
>>
>> If of EVERYTHING there is NOTHING that makes an expression
>> of language X true then X is untrue.
>>
>>
> 
> WHich just means you have the problem of Naive Set Theory. There is not 
> one "Universe" that is everything.
> 

*THERE IS A FREAKING EVERYTHING*

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