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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- rewritten
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:26:39 -0500
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On 6/12/2024 10:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/12/24 10:48 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 9:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/12/24 10:25 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/12/2024 9:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/12/24 9:50 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 8:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/12/24 9:27 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THAT IS THE QUESTION THAT IS ASSUMED.
>>>>>>>> THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION THAT IS BEING ASKED.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you say that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you not understand the meaning of the words "Halt Decider"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> H must derive the question that it is being asked by computing
>>>>>>>> the mapping from its finite string input to the behavior specified
>>>>>>>> by this finite string input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, Definitions don't mean anything?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Halt deciders are not being asked English questions nitwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the formal question can be translated into English.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the PROBLEM statements can be written in English as a 
>>>>> requirements doecument.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Halt Deciders" don't need to "understand" the question, they just 
>>>>> do what they are programmed to do. 
>>>>
>>>> H can only see that it must report on D correctly simulated by H.
>>>> No one ever tells it anything different than this.
>>>
>>> H doesn't need to "know" what it is doing. It PROGRAMMER does.
>>>
>>
>> The input to H(D,D) does not tell H to look at the behavior of D(D).
>>
>> You are currently too ignorant to understand this mainly because
>> you don't want to bother to seriously consider that I may be correct.
>>
>>
> 
> Of course the input doesn't tell it that. The problem description tells 
> the programmer that is what he was supposed to do.
> 

The INPUT must tell the program what the question is.
What does the expression: COMPUTE THE MAPPING FROM INPUTS
mean to you in your own words?

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