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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The end of human-generated music in movies, TV and more? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 22:35:16 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v4ga94$2mon4$2@dont-email.me> References: <20240613170301.00000cbd@example.com> <6umcnbNnIf41P_b7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 04:35:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7af774e2553b62955d712a3bbcd7c2e9"; logging-data="2843364"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+/Iaw4wuCJI6QaiWBnWVHG+xBnPVSOHBw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lcXqXIwpP23ANK5Lodq+b9llRD8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <6umcnbNnIf41P_b7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> Bytes: 2551 On 6/13/2024 9:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Jun 13, 2024 at 2:03:01 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> > wrote: > >> Rick Beato thinks we've reached the point he's been warning about: AI >> is now able to generate music that many people can't recognize as AI. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbo6SdyWGns [9] >> >> Strangely enough, his kids, who are WAY more knowledgeable about music >> than most kids, can easily spot the AI songs where Beato himself has >> trouble. >> >> I truly hope AI can't do engraving, otherwise BTR1701 may not be able >> to do it for money any longer! > > I've seen demonstrations of what purport to be the cutting edge of AI scanning > and recognition software when applied to music and while it does a good job > with clearly legible handwritten notation of one-line melodies and simple > chords, the moment it's given a page of something like Jerry Goldsmith's score > for ALIEN, with both it's terrible penmanship and grainy/faded image quality > that's been copied and recopied a dozen times, the software has the equivalent > of a nervous breakdown and produces something out of a George Crumb fever > dream: > > https://ibb.co/j8zKYxv > > So I think I'm safe from musical Skynet for now. I suspect (though admittedly uncertainly) that it's much easier for AI to write music "in the style of" than to create "new and pleasing".