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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Mike Lynch not guilty of defrauding HP Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 09:16:50 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v4hfs2$2siee$2@dont-email.me> References: <v4c4k9$1l3li$1@dont-email.me> <v4clke$1mhff$1@dont-email.me> <v4cmbl$1ojm6$1@dont-email.me> <v4ep0a$28rii$1@dont-email.me> <v4fnus$2epu0$1@dont-email.me> <v4hccd$2sino$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 15:16:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="623cb998fef494c201cff2f50d85c1b2"; logging-data="3033550"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MXORfFhQhtFoyScCPo0uQXExNV7vfPFM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5Ghm5l31d/uoPfJH+eY6K4J9vIY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v4hccd$2sino$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2469 On 6/14/2024 8:17 AM, Simon Clubley wrote: > On 2024-06-13, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote: >> And I don't think buyer not checking information provided by >> seller is a good argument for that false information does >> not mean fraud. > > A buyer has a duty to evaluate whether the information they are > being told is correct or not. They should, but that does not make it legal to provide false information. If one lie in financial documents to a buyer, a bank or the tax authorities then it is fraud and one can be put in jail. That they could check the information does not make it non-fraud. > HP clearly did not carry out this > process to the standards required and expected. In fact, wasn't > one of the senior HP employees who actively warned about buying > Autonomy either moved aside by HP or just ignored ? HP has acknowledged that. They did a write off of 8.8 B$. And they want 4 B$ as compensation. price paid - actual value = 8.8 B$ and value per books - actual value = 4.0 B$ => price paid - value per books = 4.8 B$ If my math is correct then HP has already admitted that they overpaid 4.8 B$. And if the 4.0 B$ get reduced then the math becomes worse. Arne