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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 16:14:45 +0200
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On 2024-04-03 13:29:25 +0000, panther2020 said:

> We share around half of our genes with the ordinary banana...
> 
> That assuredly does not come from humans BREEDING with bananas...  It 
> most liikely comes from humans EATING bananas, pretty much forever, and 
> probably throughout the universe and not just on  this planet.
> 
> Likewise, the first experience humans ever had with Neanderthals on 
> Earth was watching friends and family members being killed and eaten by 
> them, so that eating a Neanderthal that had been killed in some battle 
> would have just been sending the Neanderthals a message in their own 
> language...
> 
> In both cases, what you seem to be talking about is bacterial insertian 
> of genes.
> 
> There is a claim that, because some humans have a certain small number 
> of genes in common with Neanderthals, that humans and Neanderthals must 
> have interbred. That amounts to thinking that a Neanderthal male 
> could/would rape a woman and, rather than cooking and eating her 
> afterwards as usual, somehow or other keep her alive long enough to 
> bear a cross-species child, raise that child to reproductive age, and 
> have him/her breed back into human populations without anybody catching 
> on, i.e. the claim is ridiculous.
> 
> In real life:
> 
> Neanderthal females would kill that woman the first time her new owner 
> left her alone for ten minutes.
> 
> The woman wouldn't fare any better than the subjects of the commie 
> attempts to breed humans and apes into super workers in the 1930s.
> 
> Humans would notice the child was different (really different...)
> 
> And humans would kill that child and everybody else like him as part of 
> the same program which killed out the Neanderthal. They would not need 
> DNA tests to determine who to kill for that sort of reason, it would be 
> exceedingly obvious.
> 
> https://youtu.be/mZbmywzGAVs
> 
> In other words, it would be a miracle for something like that to ever 
> have happened once while the claims from Paabo et. al. require it to 
> have been going on all the time. That is, for human/hominid 
> cross-breeding to have left detectable traces in the DNA of modern 
> humans, it would have to have been entirely common.
> 
> One zero-probability event in the history of the universe? Maybe, but 
> not an infinite series of them, i.e. not something that stands 
> everything we know about probability on its head.

Severe case of Dunning-Kruger here. So much speculation on so little 
knowledge. I leave it to others with more energy (Mark?) to take it 
apart.

-- 
athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016