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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2024-06-14, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A man is preparing to sue Apple for more than £5 million after
>> ‘deleted messages’ he sent to sex workers were discovered by his wife. 
>> 
>> The unfaithful husband claims that Apple’s lack of transparency over
>> deleted messages has led to his wife filing for divorce. 
>> 
>> Richard, not his real name, is reportedly a middle aged man from
>> England, and revealed to The Times that he had turned to sex workers
>> in the final years of his marriage. He would contact them via the
>> iMessages app on his iPhone before deleting the incriminating texts. 
>> 
>> However, when his wife went on the family iMac, the messages, going
>> back several years, popped up despite him believing he had deleted
>> them. 
>> 
>> She filed for divorce within a month.
>> 
>> He told The Times: ‘If you are told a message is deleted, you are
>> entitled to believe it’s deleted.
> 
> The guy didn't have Messages in iCloud enabled, so when he deleted them
> from one device they remained on the other devices signed into the same
> iCloud account. Expecting them to be deleted from his other devices
> despite not having Messages in iCloud enabled is irrational. His
> "problem" is the result of user error. So, like so many others, this
> frivolous lawsuit will go nowhere. 😉
> 

The behavior of that setting is the first time I’ve heard it described this
way. I doubt the average person would know to enable that setting to delete
their messages on the him computer too. 

If that setting was not enabled on his phone, how did his messages even
make it to iCloud for them to be replicated on the iMac?