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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 ---ignoring all other replies Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 10:07:07 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: <v4kamr$3gc4t$8@dont-email.me> References: <v45tec$4q15$1@dont-email.me> <v48be9$rgsh$1@dont-email.me> <v48gh6$3kcoe$4@i2pn2.org> <v48jv2$se9c$1@dont-email.me> <v49dge$3kcoe$5@i2pn2.org> <v4a0hs$157ic$3@dont-email.me> <v4ak5o$3kcoe$6@i2pn2.org> <v4am8r$19edk$1@dont-email.me> <v4apjs$19rnv$1@dont-email.me> <v4arp0$1a7uo$1@dont-email.me> <v4b1c3$3nf9n$3@i2pn2.org> <v4b50m$1f89t$5@dont-email.me> <v4c12r$3oop0$3@i2pn2.org> <v4cjl7$1o4b4$1@dont-email.me> <v4d991$3qbnc$1@i2pn2.org> <v4da12$1sioe$1@dont-email.me> <v4dbmf$3qbnc$3@i2pn2.org> <v4dcd6$1sioe$3@dont-email.me> <v4df0h$3qbnd$1@i2pn2.org> <v4dhf5$1tsdf$2@dont-email.me> <v4dja1$3qbnd$5@i2pn2.org> <v4djhf$1tsdf$6@dont-email.me> <v4dk7b$3qbnc$8@i2pn2.org> <v4dl3b$225kb$1@dont-email.me> <v4dn5u$3qbnd$8@i2pn2.org> <v4dop4$22o4a$2@dont-email.me> <v4dq07$3qbnc$12@i2pn2.org> <v4dqq0$2353n$1@dont-email.me> <v4el9m$3rsd6$3@i2pn2.org> <v4f3ec$2akmh$2@dont-email.me> <v4g65a$3tn6q$1@i2pn2.org> <v4k906$3gc4t$4@dont-email.me> <v4kaas$2218$14@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 17:07:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="65be3053bb2d9b452c13d5ddc3153d90"; logging-data="3682461"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX199neSByUpRRBe/zHbnrWcR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:fDalpULKz5wuwS5Buy7muszen78= In-Reply-To: <v4kaas$2218$14@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4211 On 6/15/2024 10:00 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/15/24 10:37 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> It is contingent upon you to show the exact steps of how H computes >>>> the mapping from the x86 machine language finite string input to >>>> H(D,D) using the finite string transformation rules specified by >>>> the semantics of the x86 programming language that reaches the >>>> behavior of the directly executed D(D) >>>> >>> >>> Why? I don't claim it can. >>> >> >> We must fully resolve this point before proceeding on any other >> halting problem points. If the reason that you don't answer is >> that this is simply over-your-head then it may not make sense to >> continue talking about these things with you. >> >> This is the key point that you must understand otherwise our >> conversation hit the brick wall of your persistently maintained >> ignorance. >> >> If there is no mapping from the input to H(D,D) to the behavior >> of D(D) then *H IS NOT BEING ASKED ABOUT THIS BEHAVIOR* >> >> > > You just seem to be stuck in your lies. > > There *IS* a mapping from the input to H(D,D) to the behavior of D(D), *Then do as I originally requested and provide ALL OF THE STEPS* *ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING BESIDES ALL OF THE STEPS WILL BE REJECTED* *OUT-OF-HAND AS WRONG ANSWER* _D() [00000cfc](01) 55 push ebp [00000cfd](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp [00000cff](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08] [00000d02](01) 50 push eax ; push D [00000d03](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08] [00000d06](01) 51 push ecx ; push D [00000d07](05) e800feffff call 00000b0c ; call H [00000d0c](03) 83c408 add esp,+08 [00000d0f](02) 85c0 test eax,eax [00000d11](02) 7404 jz 00000d17 [00000d13](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax [00000d15](02) eb05 jmp 00000d1c [00000d17](05) b801000000 mov eax,00000001 [00000d1c](01) 5d pop ebp [00000d1d](01) c3 ret Size in bytes:(0034) [00000d1d] -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer