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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- rewritten Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 10:23:11 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <v4kbkv$3h3iu$2@dont-email.me> References: <v428vv$2no74$2@dont-email.me> <v468qt$7uvj$1@dont-email.me> <v47joj$je45$1@dont-email.me> <v47kt3$jhs8$1@dont-email.me> <v47l92$je45$2@dont-email.me> <v48tt4$tqad$1@dont-email.me> <v4a07r$157ic$1@dont-email.me> <v4beis$1h0p6$1@dont-email.me> <v4cceu$1mi5i$2@dont-email.me> <v4corm$1p0h0$1@dont-email.me> <v4cp5s$1pe0q$1@dont-email.me> <v4cs0b$1p0h1$1@dont-email.me> <v4csdq$1q0a8$1@dont-email.me> <v4ctuq$1p0h1$2@dont-email.me> <v4cuc6$1qedu$1@dont-email.me> <v4e9qm$25ks0$1@dont-email.me> <v4epji$28g4v$2@dont-email.me> <v4fhj3$2dce5$1@dont-email.me> <v4fi0m$2dvk4$1@dont-email.me> <v4h4ag$2q9hc$1@dont-email.me> <v4he7s$2sdqr$4@dont-email.me> <v4i41a$30e5b$1@dont-email.me> <v4i52u$30usa$1@dont-email.me> <v4i7ne$311i2$1@dont-email.me> <v4ia6l$31vjj$1@dont-email.me> <v4jlds$3cq2s$1@dont-email.me> <v4k0fc$3f0hc$1@dont-email.me> <v4k74f$3g29j$1@dont-email.me> <v4k7he$3gc4t$1@dont-email.me> <v4k8us$3g29j$3@dont-email.me> <v4k9kk$3gc4t$6@dont-email.me> <v4kb18$3gpbj$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 17:23:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="65be3053bb2d9b452c13d5ddc3153d90"; logging-data="3706462"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX198/MHWeKv+h5iYQU03ROVH" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:FonCZt5TFZMBhrU4lOH9Efr4xB0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v4kb18$3gpbj$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3469 On 6/15/2024 10:12 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 15.jun.2024 om 16:48 schreef olcott: >> On 6/15/2024 9:37 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> >>> Is this the new definition of "pathological"? >> >> *It is the same thing that I have been saying all along* >> >> 00 typedef void (*ptr)(); // pointer to void function >> 01 >> 02 int HH(ptr P, ptr I); >> 03 >> 04 void DDD(int (*x)()) >> 05 { >> 06 HH(x, x); >> 07 return; >> 08 } >> 09 >> 10 int main() >> 11 { >> 12 HH(DDD,DDD); >> 13 } >> >> Line 12 main() >> invokes HH(DDD,DDD); that simulates DDD() >> >> *REPEAT UNTIL outer HH aborts* >> Line 06 simulated DDD() >> invokes simulated HH(DDD,DDD); that simulates DDD() >> >> DDD correctly simulated by HH never reaches its own "return" >> instruction and halts. > > So, you agree that you are changing definitions. Not at all. The original definition still applies when it is made more generic. 01 int D(ptr p) 02 { 03 int Halt_Status = H(p, p); 04 if (Halt_Status) 05 HERE: goto HERE; 06 return Halt_Status; 07 } D correctly simulated by H has isomorphic behavior to DDD correctly simulated by HH, both get stuck in recursive simulation. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer