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From: Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 13:37:15 +0100
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On 16/06/2024 09:34, TTman wrote:
> 
>>
>> There's no conversion machine. Here is the explanation from a gas bill
>> last year:
>> "Your gas meter measures usage in units, but like all suppliers, we have
>> to do a bit of maths to turn it into kWh. Here's how it works:
>> GAS UNITS USED X CALORIFIC VALUE (39.1) X VOLUME CORRECTION (1.02264) ÷
>> 3.6"
>> That particular month, I used 146 units according to the gas meter, so
>> the calculation was:
>> 146 x 39.1 x 1.02244 / 3.6 = 1621.6 (rounded to 1622kWh)
>>
>> The caloric value and volume correction varies slightly depending on the
>> source of the natural gas. Note that for modern gas meters, 1 unit = 1
>> cubic metre.
>>
>>> The easy way would be to compare direct gas heating with resistive
>>> electric heating, both of which are crazy inefficient.
>>
>> ??? Forgetting for the moment the source of the electricity, resistive
>> electric heating is 100% efficient!
>>
>>> There is a movement here to eliminate gas to Save The Earth. Berkeley
>>> CA forbids running gas to new-construction homes. I'm sure that will
>>> keep Climate Change from affecting Berkeley.
>>
>> Similar here. There's going to be a ban on gas heaters for new homes
>> from 2025 (probably?). See
>> <https://www.greenmatch.co.uk/blog/gas-boiler-ban>
>>
> I don't think the gas ban will ever happen... At least, not until the UK
> becomes 100% totally self sufficient in green/renewable i.e.
> solar/wind/nuclear.It's a bit ilke the electric car situation.. It will
> be 50+ years before there are no IC cars. Jeff- Have you considered
> switching to Octopus Energy and get on their tracker/Agile tariffs? I'm
> from the UK..

It will happen, but not for years (unless The Greens get in, when we'll 
all be freezing in the dark...).

The Agile tariff is of no interest (no EV, solar, battery). Tracker is 
of more relevance, but I'm not a smart meter advocate, nor do I pay 
anything by DD (I think it might be possible to pay by non-DD with 
Octopus's agreement as per their T&C, but I'm not sure). I'll probably 
revisit the subject in a year or so.

-- 
Jeff