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Subject: Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 16:38:43 +0200
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Le 16/06/2024 à 16:16, joes a écrit :
> Am Sun, 16 Jun 2024 07:44:41 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 6/16/2024 2:50 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-15 13:14:57 +0000, olcott said:
>>>> On 6/15/2024 7:19 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-15 03:07:14 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>> On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>   > On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote:
> 
>>> Whenever a decider is run it answers the question it is made to answer.
>> Not necessarily. Just because everyone falsely assumes that D correctly
>> simulated by H must have the same behavior as the directly executed D(D)
>> does not make this false assumption true.
> You still need to explain how you can call a simulation that differs from
> the behaviour of its input "correct".
> 
>> H is only asked about the behavior of D simulated by H and is
>> not asked about the behavior of the directly executed D(D).
> If H is a simulator, it must simulate the execution of D(D).
> H does not compute the answer to "What does H say about its input?",
> since it could answer anything then.
> It makes no sense to call a wrong answer the correct answer to a different
> question.
> 

Exactly. Olcott is bringing the motto "It is not a bug it is a feature"
into theory of computing.