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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Privilege Levels Below User Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 16:58:58 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <v4n5ki$50bj$1@dont-email.me> References: <v4ifbt$32kuq$8@dont-email.me> <memo.20240615121647.7992C@jgd.cix.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 18:58:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="067e25304a37bc20a9d90baa6ef7262a"; logging-data="164211"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+wKjVI+SCYyknp3y5MzG+2hEXwLMQk4M=" User-Agent: Pan/0.158 (Avdiivka; 6a11104e) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ageZV2tzy9L4v26RoAuTMmYReao= Bytes: 2434 On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 12:16 +0100 (BST), John Dallman wrote: > In article <v4ifbt$32kuq$8@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence > D'Oliveiro) wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 22:10:23 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig wrote: >> > It's not quite that simple - if you try to build a modern web brower >> > for POWER on Linux, for example, you're in for quite an adventure. >> >> Endianness assumptions? I think essentially all of the basic toolchain >> is already available, so what's left would be mostly bugs in the app >> code itself. For which I'm sure they would accept patches. > > There are a _lot_ of libraries and other components that go into a > modern web browser, many of which will never have been built on POWER. > The JITer for the Javascript engine, and the Web Assembly translator > seem to be among them, and they need to make use of the native > instruction set. That's not a bug fix, that's a significant > implementation task. > > As modern web browser does a _lot_ more than interpret HTML and display > bitmaps, and most of the code for the extra functionality is in the > browser. They're more like multimedia operating systems than document > viewers. Even the code that interprets HTML can be difficult to port to a less common architecture, or even keep it working on that architecture. In Firefox, a lot of it is written in Rust which is still changing rapidly.