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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Baby X is bor nagain Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 02:22:33 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <v4okn9$flpo$2@dont-email.me> References: <v494f9$von8$1@dont-email.me> <v49seg$14cva$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v49t6f$14i1o$1@dont-email.me> <v4bcbj$1gqlo$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v4bh56$1hibd$1@dont-email.me> <v4c0mg$1kjmk$1@dont-email.me> <v4c8s4$1lki1$4@dont-email.me> <20240613002933.000075c5@yahoo.com> <v4emki$28d1b$1@dont-email.me> <20240613174354.00005498@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 08:22:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a7b132bb65603ea19d45fd3964c95a9e"; logging-data="513848"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18HAxGPJpT6sEd9DyD9bkxb6sargpOMnAo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:T6cv9vsV+PLcpTdfG0lWU5sST+o= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <20240613174354.00005498@yahoo.com> Bytes: 2678 On 6/13/24 10:43, Michael S wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 13:53:54 +0200 > David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote: .... >> I know more than most C programmers about how certain C compilers >> work, and what works well with them, and what is relevant for them - >> though I certainly don't claim to know everything. Obviously Bart >> knows vastly more about how /his/ compiler works. He also tends to >> do testing with several small and odd C compilers, which can give >> interesting results even though they are of little practical >> relevance for real-world C development work. >> > > Since he do compilers himself, he has much better feeling [that you > or me] of what is hard and what is easy, what is small and what is big, > what is fast and what is slow. That applies to all compilers except > those that are very unusual. "Major" compiler are not unusual at all. The problem is that Bart's compiler is VERY unusual. It's customized for his use, and he has lots of quirks in the way he thinks compilers should work, which are very different from those of most other programmers. In particular, compilation speed is very important to him, while execution speed is almost completely unimportant, which is pretty much the opposite of the way most programmers prioritize those things.