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From: Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
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Subject: Re: Doctor Who: RTD in the Radio Times.
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 20:42:44 +1000
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The True Doctor wrote on 17/6/24 2:12 pm:
> On 17/06/2024 00:38, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
>> On 6/16/2024 16:21, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We have a figure of 40,000 total viewers for the first 2 
>>>> episodes on Disney+ from Doomcock and unless Disney+ publishes 
>>>> figures which contradict that then Doomcock must be accepted as
>>>> the most accurate figure available.
>> 
>> Okay, George, let's take Doomcock's figures at face value...even 
>> though he himself said that they were unverifiable, and hasn't 
>> mentioned them since (he's only dealt with the UK numbers
>> since...and as you know, those /are/ verified).  First of all, the
>> number was 50,000...but, hey, your cognitive skills have always
>> been shown to be lacking.  Also, those
> 
> Trying to explained statistics to the stupid is like flooding a dead
> horse.

YEAH!! 'flooding' a dead horse *IS* pretty stupid!!

> 50,000 an 40,000 are both of the same order of magnitude. Do you 
> understand orders of magnitude? So it makes little difference if the
> estimate is 20% out. 40,000 is easier to do the maths when comparing
> with my channel
> 
>> numbers were for the US market only...aside from the UK and
>> Ireland, Disney has the global distribution rights.  Telling us
>> that only 200 people worldwide are watching is even more laughable
>> that claiming it's just the US numbers.  But anyway....
> 
> Do you understand how streaming viewers are counted? 50,000 viewers
> does not mean that 50,000 people watched an episode all the way
> through. It means that 50,000 people watched for 10 seconds or more.
> 
> Based on comparison with other streaming services such as my YouTube
> channel which has the same world wide distribution as Disney+ only
> about 200 people at bast would have watched each episode all the way
> through, ie. 1/3 of 600 which is the number of people who averaged 8
> minutes out of 40,000 or 50,000.

I'm guessing Disney might have just a tad more Market penetration than 
your little YouTube channel, Aggy.

>> If you are telling us that Doomcock's numbers are the most
>> accurate,
> 
> Since they are the only numbers they must be the most accurate.

But, if they are *ONLY* Doomcock's number, how do you determine their 
accuracy, Aggy??

>> then that already destroys your position that there are only 200 
>> people watching the show on Disney+, either US only, or globally.
>> See how you
> 
> Once again teaching statistics to the stupid is like flogging a dead
> horse. If you want to claim the status of an expert then provide
> your credentials.
> 
> 200 is the number of people who watched each episode from start to 
> finish. The rest only average about 20 seconds to 1 minute.
> 
>> keep shooting down your own arguments?  Of course, I completely
>> expect
> 
> Stop proving yourself to be stupid.

So typing sensible words is a measure of stupidity, is it?? That must 
make you, Aggy, an expert in Stupidity!!

>> you to try to move the goalposts (it's what you do) and tell us
>> that 49,800 viewers have abandoned the show...and you can take
>> nonsense, and your figure of 200 and stick them back up your arse
>> where it came from; perhaps that will help you with that persistent
>> flatulence problem. There is no way, none at all, that any show
>> with US and/or global numbers as low as 200 stays on the air one
>> second longer...it would get pulled faster than you can say, "Cop
>> Rock".  The amount of money already
> 
> Talking to the stupid about how streaming works is like flogging a
> dead horse. Didn't I mention that earlier.
> 
> Disney you ignorant stupidity filled fool has ALREADY PAID
> $200,000,000 or whatever RTD claimed to make 2 series of Doctor Who.
> The money is already in the Bank of RTD and Bad Wolf Productions and
> Disney ain't going to get any of it back.

Sorry!! Was this last paragraph posted by Aggy or Blueshirt/Hornplayer?? 
It seems like it was Blueshirt or Hornplayer .... but my Quotation 
levels seem to indicate it was Aggy!!

I'm confused!!

> Do you understand what a contract is, stupid?

Ahh!! Now I know we're with Aggy!

<Snip>

> Now do we need to talk about about dead horses?
> 
Well not about "flooding" them, anyway!!
-- 
Daniel