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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 08:14:40 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <v4pcs0$ln46$9@dont-email.me> References: <v4j0h2$39gh7$3@dont-email.me> <v4k0sr$3f4m3$1@dont-email.me> <v4k44j$3fmth$1@dont-email.me> <v4m5gj$3v41v$1@dont-email.me> <v4mmnp$1qt6$2@dont-email.me> <v4ms37$5nh5$1@i2pn2.org> <v4mtif$3cbf$1@dont-email.me> <v4muph$1sav$1@news.muc.de> <v4n8ac$5d22$1@dont-email.me> <v4nk4s$17k4$1@news.muc.de> <v4nn63$89ld$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:14:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="24f2a1964fe8769a85c52084edf5324e"; logging-data="711814"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19yfDTVc760xJmK9joWsp+r" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:QWPq/8OD4adwbeRQHlg2ftmg7GA= In-Reply-To: <v4nn63$89ld$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2241 On 6/16/2024 4:58 PM, André G. Isaak wrote: > On 2024-06-16 15:06, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> If you'd've simply stuck to turing machines all along, you could have >> avoided a lot of the confusion you've got yourself into. Why not start >> talking about turing machines now? > > Olcott has made it clear that he has absolutely no idea what Turing > Machines are or how they work. He likes bringing them up (even insisting > on calling his C programs "TMs" or "UTMs"), but there's no possibility > that he will start discussing actual Turing machines. They're entirely > outside of his purview. > > André > It will only address that here [Simulating termination analyzers for dummies] It has all of the reasoning in one place not strewn about here and there. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer