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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:03:37 -0000 (UTC)
> <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 23:42:41 -0000 (UTC)
> 
>> >          More like five years, the 80386 came out in 1987. There were
>> > BSD ports available by 1993 and the first Linux release was in 1991.
>> > However that's just open source - There were commercial XENIX and
>> > Interactive ports earlier - even for the 80286.
>> 
>> We're comparing different endpoints. I started with 386BSD and it
>> could be made to install and run by about 1992, but that alone was
>> an accomplishment for a non-expert like me. It took a few more 
> 
>         Indeed it was - did you have the patch kit ?

Not to begin with, the patch kit came later. Can't remember exactly
when I started with 386BSD. The Byte issues had gone to the bindery,
so it was at least six months after publication.

> 
>> years to become _usable_ by non-experts, in the form of FreeBSD.
> 
>         Nope FreeBSD 1.0 came out in November 1993 - I was using 1.1.5.1 to
> run a Dublin based ISP in 1994. We gave Jordan Hubbard a free account when
> we discovered he was visiting Ireland and he gave us a stack of 1.1 discs.
> He got the better deal :)
>

IIRC 1.1.5.1 worked pretty well, as the last encumbered version. Am I
confused? The early un-encumbered versions were somewhat rough. 
[encumbered meaning "contains AT&T code"]
 
>> Maybe I'm off a little on the dates (I learned of 386BSD about a
>> year after the Byte Magazine series by Jolitz) but then it was
>> still very fiddly. By about 1997-8 I was using FreeBSD for email.
> 
>         That would be late 2.2 or early 3.0 days - 3.0 was the release that
> included APM support for laptops, one of the few occasions I ran -current.

3.0 rings a bell.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska