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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: The Legend of Ruby Sunday - first thoughts Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 07:34:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 118 Message-ID: <v4rda2$186vq$1@dont-email.me> References: <v4mfpv$tkp$1@dont-email.me> <v4pq3o$r720$1@dont-email.me> <v4qhfv$1ra1$13@gallifrey.nk.ca> <v4qssg$15gjl$1@dont-email.me> <v4r5os$2s2d$2@gallifrey.nk.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:34:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2db8c597f177dfba4b27c7b6701ca497"; logging-data="1317882"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18TGQjWC7k/AyWYwLId4tPI" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:m50A7W0SxYPNMujyNGYD4ReghwY= sha1:AtMIB2ppk2YgPbbFad08aBk6vAk= Bytes: 5144 The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: > In article <v4qssg$15gjl$1@dont-email.me>, > The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote: >> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote: >>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote: >>>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know the connections between Pyramids of Mars >>>>>>> and Legend of Ruby Sunday and Empire of Death? >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course I do Dave. But I want to see where it’s going - it’s a big >>>>>> promotion for Sutekh from imprisoned Osiran to a genuine god. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> REcall the 4th Doctor exiled Sutekh to far reaches of time. >>>>> >>>>> I expect a very angry Osiran! >>>> >>>> You don’t remember the end of Pyramids of Mars very well then, Dave. There >>>> was no exile. >>>> >>>> Freed of the captivity imposed on him by Horus, Osiris headed for Earth >>>> down his time-space tunnel to destroy but unfortunately for him, his travel >>>> time was limited to light speed which gave the Doctor a two minute window >>>> to move the end of the corridor. By moving it tens of thousands of years >>>> into the future, he made Sutekh live out his full 7,000 years lifespan in >>>> transit. Sutekh DIES at the end of the episode. >>>> >>>> The Osirans were a powerful alien race. The ancient Egyptians regarded them >>>> as gods - but they were not gods. Then. >>>> >>>> Therefore, I’m waiting to see what RTD does with the concept. >>>> >>> >>> How long does an Osirian live? >> >> I already told you. As did the Doctor. >> >> /quote >> >> (The Doctor fastens two wires to the mummy case and puts his device on the >> floor in front of it. The tunnel activates.) >> DOCTOR: We've got about twenty seconds. >> SARAH: Here he comes. >> (Sutekh travels along the tunnel, but does not come out of the end.) >> SUTEKH: Who dares to interfere? >> DOCTOR: You're caught in a temporal trap, Sutekh. >> SUTEKH: Time Lord! I shall destroy you. I shall destroy you! >> DOCTOR: How long do Osirans live, Sutekh? >> SUTEKH: Release me! >> DOCTOR: Never. You're caught in the corridor of eternity. >> SUTEKH: Release me, insect, or I shall destroy the cosmos! >> DOCTOR: You're a thousand years beyond the 20th century now, Sutekh. Go on >> for another ten thousand. >> SUTEKH: I'll spare the planet Earth. I'll give it to you as a plaything. >> Release me! >> (Sutekh starts to disappear along the passage.) >> DOCTOR: No, Sutekh. The time of the Osirans is long past. >> SUTEKH: No! >> DOCTOR: Go. >> (Sutekh is gone). >> DOCTOR: He lived about seven thousand years. >> SARAH: He's dead. Sutekh is dead. >> DOCTOR: At last. >> >> /end quote >> > > And more on that quote is ... A re-emphasis of the same information. I’ve put a !!!! wrapper around the only remaining relevant line. SARAH: Look, I know that's the time control from the Tardis, but what did you do? !!!! DOCTOR: I moved the threshold of the time space tunnel into the far future. He could never have reached the end. !!!! DOCTOR: After the Eye was broken, I realised that we had little more than two minutes to get back here. SARAH: But how? DOCTOR: The time radio waves take to pass from Mars to Earth. SARAH: Ah. So the Eye of Horus was still holding Sutekh for two minutes after it was broken. DOCTOR: Yes. You know, the Egyptians called him the Typhonian beast. (Boom!) SARAH: Doctor! (Flames and smoke come from the mummy case.) DOCTOR: That was careless of me. I forgot the thermal balance would equalise. SARAH: Listen, this priory was burnt to the ground, remember? DOCTOR: Yes. Perhaps it is time we were leaving. We don't want to be blamed for starting a fire, do we? SARAH: No. DOCTOR: I had enough of that in 1666. SARAH: What? -- “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor