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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho Subject: Re: Doctor Who: RTD in the Radio Times. Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:23:00 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <v4ru72$1bibn$1@dont-email.me> References: <xn0on0tk1ebn7yw000@post.eweka.nl> <v4gh7n$2nubg$1@dont-email.me> <xn0on2i1cg4kjcs003@post.eweka.nl> <v4ibcj$326dt$2@dont-email.me> <xn0on3kobh3r1i4001@post.eweka.nl> <v4li3e$3rtm0$3@dont-email.me> <xn0on5eyej4hokc000@post.eweka.nl> <THKbO.75900$2RJ6.8979@fx05.ams4> <v4p313$k1dg$1@dont-email.me> <v4p6jm$kp7g$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 14:22:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bc3b23ee807acadd5f2431205913f471"; logging-data="1427831"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18hMKxIYgAKIXzRJnhuaXAVybHi9R0C0jo=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:tpcYyHf//KN6EGcPBYR7xaVXlig= In-Reply-To: <v4p6jm$kp7g$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4664 The Last Doctor wrote on 17/6/24 9:27 pm: > Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> Hornplayer9599 wrote on 17/6/24 9:38 am: >>> On 6/16/2024 16:21, Blueshirt wrote: >>> >>>>> We have a figure of 40,000 total viewers for the first 2 >>>>> episodes on Disney+ from Doomcock and unless Disney+ >>>>> publishes figures which contradict that then Doomcock must be >>>>> accepted as the most accurate figure available. >>> >>> Okay, George, let's take Doomcock's figures at face value...even >>> though he himself said that they were unverifiable, and hasn't >>> mentioned them since (he's only dealt with the UK numbers >>> since...and as you know, those /are/ verified). >> >> I don't know what happens now but, back in the Day, Some small >> portion of the population (maybe 0.1%) would actually be surveyed >> as to what they watched on their T.V.'s, how many in the Household >> watched, the economic standing of household members, etc, and these >> numbers were multiplied up to give 'population' numbers. >> >> Is this still, effectively, what happens in Britain and Ireland?? >> >> If so, I could understand why it might take sooooo long for Disney >> to come up with a number for the rest of the world. > > BARB use a compound system - a sample of 7,000 households (about > 16,000 people) is taken who use a special remote to say when they > enter or leave a TV enabled room. In those rooms is a box that > continuously samples the TV audio and matches it every night to > determine what live TV and “recorded on my box” programmes were being > watched, by whom, and for how long. A separate box is coupled to the > wi-fi router to capture what subscription and SVOD services are being > accessed and when, also matched to TV audio and the viewer counter. > > The number of households has increased down the years as overall > viewing numbers have reduced and distribution across an ever > increasing number of channels has diluted the totals so to ensure > that statistical accuracy is maintained, the sample size has had to > increase. > > Those figures are extrapolated to give the U.K. total viewing figures > using standard statistical methods. 0.025% of the population is > deemed sufficient for this (7,000 out of 28m households). > > BARB also take a survey every week of 1,000 random households to > update the panel requirements to ensure the right demographic and > household balance is maintained across the 10 categories of household > (Couple with no children, with 1-2 dependent children, one person > household - 65 or over and under 65, lone parent with dependent > children, couple with non-dependent children only, lone parent with > non-dependent children only, couple with 3 or more dependent > children, two or more unrelated adults, multi-family household) and > their social categories and viewing habits. > > They also capture big data from all streaming providers to get a > pattern of SVOD viewing that they compare to their panel results for > reasonableness - but they don’t use the big data figures directly > because they measure by device, not viewers. > Thank you. That sounds, roughly, like what I was expecting. Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics!! -- Daniel