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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Whaddaya think? Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:00:16 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v4s0d0$1b7h1$3@dont-email.me> References: <666ded36$0$958$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <20240616015649.000051a0@yahoo.com> <v4lm16$3s87h$4@dont-email.me> <v4lmso$3sl7n$1@dont-email.me> <v4lr0m$3tbpj$1@dont-email.me> <8734pd4g3s.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <v4ltuj$3trj2$1@dont-email.me> <87ed8w3025.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <868qz4kty7.fsf@linuxsc.com> <v4oiup$gpg0$2@dont-email.me> <66703dfd$0$7081$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <87y173196q.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:00:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="000ac22a82b477e7b73d30c4bbbc814d"; logging-data="1416737"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18e0yZwORX4nOA8Qe54cNrAb3Wl8OJVotw=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:uWghTBDRPX8hcsnNNao/k5PQU6Q= In-Reply-To: <87y173196q.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2837 On 18/06/2024 00:44, Keith Thompson wrote: > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes: >> On 6/17/2024 1:52 AM, Janis Papanagnou wrote: >>> On 17.06.2024 07:40, Tim Rentsch wrote: >>>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> The worst consequence of undefined behavior is having your code >>>>> appear to "work". >>>> >>>> Personally I think causing a missle launch that started a >>>> worldwide thermonuclear war would be a worse consequence. >>>> YMMV. >>> I think I wouldn't code a missile control system in "C". ;-) >>> Janis >> >> Per "Google AI Overview": "In 1987, the Department of Defense mandated >> that Ada be the standard programming language for Defense computer >> resources used in military command and control systems." > > Please don't post AI-based misinformation. > > The DOD Ada mandate was introduced in 1991, and effectively dropped in 1997. > And of course the USA DoD (I assume, when DFS failed to mention the country, he meant the USA) is only for one country. There are a great many other countries making missile control software around the world, and I know without doubt that Ada is not mandated in all of them. The open-source RTEMS "Real-Time Executive for Missile Systems" RTOS is written in a mix of C and Ada, and supports at least C, Ada and C++ for user code.